Tiffy Roll Rate

[hazed-]

DOWDING   .....ahhhhh dowding, dowding, dowding!  

Finally you ask for a similar investigation into your chosen ride to what i have asked for with 190 roll.Only im NOT going to call it a whine....even though im tempted to  
what you are asking for, eg pyro and others to check it out is all ive ever asked for.
You say you've never read about its poor roll rate,read accounts of it performing manouvers that seem impossible to do in AH???
JOIN THE CLUB.

hmmm it seems now i have to think up a suitable insult that makes you mad and pisses you off....let me see......er....
youre from yorkshire right?   ok here goes...


BAH you Allied whiner!...THATS HOW THEY WERE..AH is infalible...all data is taken from tests and these tests were certified by GOD so they are correct regardless of what you've read anywhere!..all those books are written by historians that lie!!..so go back to your cockpit and KEEP YOUR HANDS OUT OF YOUR POCKETS!!!! we all know a yorkshireman can peel an orange with one hand in those trouser pockets you rummage around in!  

hehe all i need do now is wait for a quote i can take out of context and then wait for you to struggle to re-explain.....Dang nothing usable in that post...have to wait patiently...it will come  

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Hazed
9./JG54

[Dowding]

Hazed - screw you and your foreign accent. Because that is what I am sure it will be - not a noble, majestic and down-right thoroughbred accent like mine. Ha!    

I'll answer your post in five parts:

1) The tiffie is not my chosen ride - I used it for jabo (with the 2x1000 pounders) for a couple of tours. Now I use the Il-2 more often than not.

2) My concerns revolved around the supposed changes to the elevators on the tiffie. Which would affect my dive-bombing drastically.

3) But I tried it out this weekend and it didn't seem to affect my style of attack. Even if it was present, I wouldn't attribute to some sort of HTC bias against Allied planes. That would be silly.

4) err...

5) ...that's it.  

But seriously, I don't think AH is infallible; but hard data is the only way anything can be decided. I've only ever seen this NACA data posted in reference to either the tiffie roll rate or the 190. I, for one, would like to see more - because I'm pretty sure it is out there.

Corroboration is the key-word, methinks.

[Nexus]

I know someone else already stated this - but I'll re-itterate.

Would it make every one happy if NACA charts were used, but all plane performances lowered by 10% respectively?

This would make the relative differences between planes the same as RL, but adjust performance for game play reasons.

Nexus

[hazed-]

 

Originally posted by Dowding:
because I'm pretty

no need to brag about it  

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Hazed
9./JG54

[MANDOBLE]

IMO this is not so easy Nexus. The only way I see is using NACA charts and reducing 10% of roll rate for all the planes ONLY AT THOSE LEVEL SPEEDS where some plane exceeds the limit imposed by internet connections. In fact, not reducing exacly a 10% but the necesary % to have the exceeding plane roll rate into that limit, and applying this % at all the planes for that speed.

[B52Charlie]

Typ. not a turn fighter anyways so, WHERE'S THE BEEF! Seems this typ. is a popsiclecat for everything i've read on it, barely any torque at all and flys like its computerized (oh yeah it is).

[Nethawk]

I've flown the Typhoon quite a bit this tour, and it has been quite a learning curve from previous times I've flown it.  Try as I might I can't get used to the delayed reaction in doing just about anything in it having to do with a change in direction.  Observations seem to point to a lot more modification than roll rate, though it has been announced that this was the only change.

I'm wondering if Pyro has had the chance to strap one on for awhile, and I'm curious as to what he has to say about its performance now.