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Offline gldnbb

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Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« on: May 08, 2009, 09:49:35 PM »
Ok,  practiced offline some but still noticed the aircraft seem 'heavy' and sloshy.
Any best recommendations for the deadband and sensitivity settings for AH?  Would rather learn good flying skills just once  :).

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Offline Blooz

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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2009, 10:04:53 PM »
Default works for me.

What plane were you flying? Was it one of those heavy, sloshy, sluggish types all loaded down with fuel, bombs, rockets and armor?

If it was, try lightening up the plane a bit in the hanger. Especially if it's a bigger plane like a heavy bomber. Just the fuel alone makes a huge difference in how each type flies.

If it wasn't, I can't help you out. The default settings work for me.

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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2009, 12:10:25 AM »
Ok,  practiced offline some but still noticed the aircraft seem 'heavy' and sloshy.
Any best recommendations for the deadband and sensitivity settings for AH?  Would rather learn good flying skills just once  :).

Gracias,

BB

Airspeed? Plane? 

Actually a properly set up stick might "feel" a lil heavy at very slow speeds. Reason is if you're slow you may require full stick deflection to get the plane to do what you want. At higher speeds just a little input may gie the desired results. In fact, at high speed you will notice what feels like a resonable  input may give you immediate high G's.

I personally set up my stick as close to a real plane as I can. That way I get what I consider the "right feel" which includes lots of stick input at slow speeds.

One thing to remember about a plane... you fly the plane. That means you tell it what you want it to do. The second the plane begins to fly you then you're in trouble. :)

Please feel free to ctc me for help setting up your stick. Are your views set up?

Hope this helps.

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Offline gldnbb

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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2009, 08:36:07 PM »
Thanks!

Ctc?

I have defaults and my views set up for p38, p51, 190, b25, b17....   Guess I'm just accustomed to WB flight sim being so 'light' to the touch...  :)


Oh and another thing I noticed while flying those offline missions you all posted,  when flying a 190 at stall speed during a slow climb out (to kill b17s),   I noticed that ctrl-x  lets my plane stay in climb-formation.  The minute I disengage ctrlx,   and fly the stick manually,  the plane reacts to the stall with standard shaking and left wing dropping out.   If I re-engage  ctrl-x,   I climb fine as dandy at stall speed.  Odd.
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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2009, 11:39:37 PM »
Ctc = contact

There are 3 standard auto pilot settings in AH2. Auto Level, Auto  Speed and Auto Angle. you can test them using x, alt-x and as you said ctrl-x. One thing about the auto pilots is if your stick needs calibration it might not hold the auto pilot you engaged.


Auto level is level flight. Self explainitory.
Auto Speed sets the climb rate in MPH. For example, a Yak will go from take off to almost 16,000 at 230 mph. Not bad if your wanting to grab while covering lots of distance, and grabbing a drink. To set it you merely brinig up the text buffer (/ key), type in .speed 230 and hit enter.
Auto Angle is a little different and you've touched on a nifty fact about it. Yes, you might point the nose skyward and hit ctrl-x and the plane will climb until she runs out of airspeed then her nose will slowly drop a required amount to maintain as close to the original nose up configuration as she can muster. At that point she may be very close to the edge of a stall. If you click out of the
auto angle mode she just might fall off on you. Another nice thing is you can trim to a given speed then hit auto angle and she'll stay there. This is helpful when you find you are just about out of gas but you may be able to convert some altitude to distance.
Many of the planes will glide, engine off, at 120 mph in a 1,000 fpm descent. That's 2 miles for every 1000 ft of lost altitude. If you're trying to make a field that is 12 miles away and you have 7k altitude you will glide home safely. Just trim the plane nose low to around 500 descent and hit auto angle. She will slowly nose down to around 1k fpm descent

Another sneaky fact about fuel burns to get you home. Hit auto level and pull all the power off the plane. Throttle back rpm and manifold. The plane will begin to slow. Eventually you will begin to there the stall warning buzzer. Bring up your E6B and begin adding just enough power to maintain level flight, no more. Now take a look at your E6B. You will have gone from 3 miles of gas left to 100 miles. And you maintaining level flight! Try it. See what distance your favorite ride will give you when you just finished a fight and looked at the ole gas gauge. You may get home with ease.

I think WB might have had a teeny bit higher zoom rate (mph). Different game, different feel. It doesnt take long to transition to the differences. 

Hope this helps.

Ren
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Offline MotleyCH

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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2009, 12:01:20 AM »


I changed my  rudder, aileron and elevators to this..

not sure where I got the recommendation from, but it works for me.

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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2009, 12:32:57 AM »
Awesome info guys...

Especially the sneaky rpm/manifold thing.  Definitely more advanced here and, hey, great that AH uses E6bs!  I've never used one so this will be great getting to learn one :).... Yea sneaky making it home,  which ya can't adjust rpm and manifold to make it home...

Will check those settings too  Motley...

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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2009, 01:24:30 AM »
What ever happened to being able to configure ur stick setup by stick.cfg in settings of ur AH folder.   I noticed that after I made chgs to my stick.cfg  that NO
CHANGES appeared on my stick configuration  in AH clipboard control?

Did AH2 change this great way of being able to setup the stick by the EXACT #s u
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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2009, 03:34:43 AM »
What ever happened to being able to configure ur stick setup by stick.cfg in settings of ur AH folder.   I noticed that after I made chgs to my stick.cfg  that NO
CHANGES appeared on my stick configuration  in AH clipboard control?

Did AH2 change this great way of being able to setup the stick by the EXACT #s u
desire?

No, still works

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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2009, 07:39:55 AM »
Deadband.

Adjust your deadband until you can give your joystick a slight wiggle and the SCALED line won't move, but the RAW will a bit.  If I have the Deadband too low, when I am in a GV (or field gun) I find that it tends to move when I don't want it to.



Dampening.

Dampening will make your plane feel a bit "mushy" when you do stick inputs.  A good test is to move your joystick from top to bottom (or side to side depending on which Axis you are adjusting) and look at how the SCALED line moves vs. the RAW.  Too much gives you mush, not enough and it is a too sensitive.  Less is best and it really depends on the Joystick where you should put it.


My Deadband and Dampening are set just a tad higher than Motleys, but that is probably more because we use different joysticks than anything.
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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2009, 06:08:01 PM »
Greetings every1  :D

At long last found the correct answer w/o beating around the bush as to HOW to
configure ur stick scale in ur AH2 folder, in settings.   The old way of going into ur
stick.cfg file DOESN'T WORK!!

The proper way to do it is to OPEN ur (name of ur joystick).jsm with Wordpad & make the changes to what YOU think they should be! Save & u are done.   :aok

Par example: go to ur AH folder to settings, find the .JSM file (saitek.jsm), right click on it, open with Wordpad & make ur chgs/corrections/additions as u see fit.
Save the info .... remember, the saitek.jsm  is listed for ur clarification, the joystick that u are using will be listed w/.jsm after it in YOUR AH settings folder.  It works on VISTA!   :rock   :salute
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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2009, 04:46:05 PM »
Something that I've wondered for a while but never tested:

After you close Aces High, does the game remember what you set your ".speed xxx" to, or is it reset every time you restart the game?  Also, when you set your auto speed, does it then apply to whatever aircraft you fly, or just to the plane you were in when you set it?
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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2009, 06:46:08 PM »
Thanks motley...  I tried out the new settings while flying a p38,  didn't feel much different but will keep flying different aircraft...
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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 06:45:17 AM »
Resets every sortie.
So each time you take off, your back to the default autoclimb for that plane unless you change it.

Something that I've wondered for a while but never tested:

After you close Aces High, does the game remember what you set your ".speed xxx" to, or is it reset every time you restart the game?  Also, when you set your auto speed, does it then apply to whatever aircraft you fly, or just to the plane you were in when you set it?

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Re: Preferred Deadband and sensitivity settings?
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 11:01:51 AM »
I set mine to be as responsive as possible.   No deadband, no delay.   
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