Pirates/terrorism funding

[AKHog]

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me what The Geneva Convention has to do with INTL shipping during peacetime.

Of course the answer is "nothing". The GC only cover the behavior of combatants during war, and even then only between constituted armies of signatory nations. Thats why it doesn't even cover the handling of "terrorists". It has nothing to do with shipping.

No doubt there are some maritime agreements that do but I have a feeling even they will be changed soon.

I think the issue is, as it was mentioned in another recent thread, that the laws in the ports where the ships are coming from or going to are often the limiting factor in regards to the crew being armed.

Also the fact that in many situations (like tankers carrying oil or natural gas) having a gun fight break out on the deck wouldn't be good for anyone.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

Whats stupid is how the "rules" state someones ship with a 5' gun is no diffrernt than the sailors holding m16's or m60's.

One if for protection, the other is for wageing war.



We arent talking about long range sea to land cruise missiles, or anti aircraft guns, or a assault/invasion type configuration.
ffs, they are being jacked, give them the right to defend themselfs, or at least that OPTION!.


Tell you what, you find me for some reason out on a huge oil ship near there, i will have a short .44 snub nose tucked into my boot, just waiting to blast the brain cap off the first jack  ass who pops his head over that ships side. "Its only intent to steal if theyre feet hit the deck" no, it was that intent the second the hooks flew over the sides and some dirty poor slap happy low lifes jump onto my ship!


Bang bang, the bodys fall back into the ocean, and YOU get a free dingy!
weeeeee, yaaaaay children rejoyce, yaaaaaaay!




This is all so stupid.

[Baitman]

This is not new news..... Pirates have been taking ships for thousands of years. In the Far East it is very common. Just because CNN airs something to rile people up doesn't mean that it just started.

Seems to be very interesting that CNN can get video and interview hijackers but the authorities can't.

NWO is spreading......

Must invade country so that oil gets safe passage........

[RTR]

Oil + wheat = Terrorists

Gas + baby blankets = Terrorists

Funny hat + smelly feet = Terrorist

See, I can join two totally different things and get a Terrorist every single time. Them bastages must be everywhere man!

We better nuke the whole world!

Quick.

RTR

[Fishu]

This is not new news..... Pirates have been taking ships for thousands of years. In the Far East it is very common. Just because CNN airs something to rile people up doesn't mean that it just started.

What's different is that we have the capability to act, but we're tied by some silly rules that the pirates abuse. For thousands of years pirates were hanged or forced to walk the plank when caught and nobody hesitated to take a shot at them with an overwhelming firepower. Even merchant ships had guns, especially the bigger ones. Now they can take over ships with small boats, in the era of modern weapons when one person can hold more firepower in his hands than a medieval cannon had.

[mechanic]

Oil + wheat = Terrorists

Gas + baby blankets = Terrorists

Funny hat + smelly feet = Terrorist

See, I can join two totally different things and get a Terrorist every single time. Them bastages must be everywhere man!

We better nuke the whole world!

Quick.

RTR

lol RTR i have a stockpile of lead will you contribute to the bunker i'm short on beans and bacon

[-tronski-]

Whats stupid is how the "rules" state someones ship with a 5' gun is no diffrernt than the sailors holding m16's or m60's.

One if for protection, the other is for wageing war.



We arent talking about long range sea to land cruise missiles, or anti aircraft guns, or a assault/invasion type configuration.
ffs, they are being jacked, give them the right to defend themselfs, or at least that OPTION!.


Tell you what, you find me for some reason out on a huge oil ship near there, i will have a short .44 snub nose tucked into my boot, just waiting to blast the brain cap off the first jack  ass who pops his head over that ships side. "Its only intent to steal if theyre feet hit the deck" no, it was that intent the second the hooks flew over the sides and some dirty poor slap happy low lifes jump onto my ship!


Bang bang, the bodys fall back into the ocean, and YOU get a free dingy!
weeeeee, yaaaaay children rejoyce, yaaaaaaay!




This is all so stupid.

Somali pirates shoot at the bridge with 50 cals/light machinguns/AK's and the like until the ship stops and a ladder is thrown overboard...or if they want to make a particular point they'll use RPG's...they board and as long as no hero's with snub noses start anything the crews are usually unharmed. Your ubiquitos cargo ship crew begins to start shooting back - somali pirates will kill said crew when they inevitably get on board hence the silly maritime rules...

Your average nuke buying terrorist group doesn't need to extort a couple of mil from an insurance company...they already get real funding from a shiekh in Riyad, or the local Ayotollah in downtown Tehran...these are the local warlords, and islamic nationalists - gangsters one and all, on their funding drives...and its a profitable buisness if you can dodge the naval patrols

 Tronsky

[Nilsen]

I do not like thes pirates stepping in an giving me competition. All these years I have been able to operate under the radar, but now these clowns come along and creates trouble for me. 

[Eagler]

the longer the free world takes to handle this situation in a final and forceful manner, the more the retarded gangi smoking/chewing armed twits will become embolden.
take them and anyone else that is in the way out - permanently.
sorry mechanic - don't think these retards have a "culture".
They seem to be as close to savages as you get without going deeper into the brush.  Exterminate them - hard and fast. Any delay just makes them heroes in the minds of their peers and the uneducated masses they call a country.

[sluggish]

Oil + wheat = Terrorists

Gas + baby blankets = Terrorists

Funny hat + smelly feet = Terrorist

See, I can join two totally different things and get a Terrorist every single time. Them bastages must be everywhere man!

We better nuke the whole world!

Quick.

RTR

Why do you capitalize terrorist?  Are you one of them?


 

[mechanic]

Fair enough Eagler, I respect your opinion, even agree with it in some sense.


lol nilsen

[RTR]

Why do you capitalize terrorist?  Are you one of them?


 

hmmm..I do wear a funny hat and have smelly feet, but I'm Canadian so that's pretty normal. So..nope!  (whew..almost had to blow meself up!)

RTR

[Baitman]

  

  Excited States of America 



  The Terrorists that came from Canada 



Blame Canada