New Computer/Vista question !Skuzzy! can you help

[33Vortex]

I don't like how they don't specify graphics card or motherboard specs, but the second one from left seem like a good option with a Intel CPU and 2 x PCI-E x16 slots. Unfortunately PSU make and wattage is not specified on either of them, that's really bad and pretty much means they could put anything in.

Just my €0.02 

[BaldEagl]

Of these I'd go with the HP Pavilion Elite m9426f Desktop.  It's got an ATI 3650 with 512K dedicated memory, 8 Gb RAM and an available PCI slot so you could add a sound card if you wanted to.

[TilDeath]

He only wanted to spend $500, not $1500.  I don't think you can hit those benchmarks for $500.

I thought it was him but looking back I was mistaken and it was iTunes whom stated 1500.00 but I quoted out a 700.00 system that will hit the 11000 without OCing.

[TilDeath]

Of these I'd go with the HP Pavilion Elite m9426f Desktop.  It's got an ATI 3650 with 512K dedicated memory, 8 Gb RAM and an available PCI slot so you could add a sound card if you wanted to.

LOL thats double the 500.00 he stated he had to spend... of hell kid go 3 times the amount and let Mom and Dad read the threads and decide.

[BaldEagl]

LOL thats double the 500.00 he stated he had to spend... of hell kid go 3 times the amount and let Mom and Dad read the threads and decide.

I just picked from 4 systems on the page he posted (which was after my post about the $500).

[TilDeath]

XP Pro will be supported by Microsoft until 2014.  Support for all other versions of XP are being dropped in 2010, although rumors have been circulating MS will drop support late next year.

Drivers are always an issue, especially if it is a laptop, but general driver support for XP will continue for many more years.  It is still the lion share of the MS OS install base.

I agree extended support will be available until April 8, 2014 but isn't mainstream support stopping on April 14, 2009 which most of the current  "home" (XP Pro, Home, Media etc) users will fall into.  From the bulletins I get from MS and the MSDN community, drivers on new product entering the market will not have a working (stable) inf file for any version of XP.  I have had this discussion with my eVGA, ASUS, Gigabyte reps amongst others they are basically saying the same thing for their video cards, motherboard and other peripherals. 

Please correct me if I am wrong here.

[TilDeath]

I don't like how they don't specify graphics card or motherboard specs, but the second one from left seem like a good option with a Intel CPU and 2 x PCI-E x16 slots. Unfortunately PSU make and wattage is not specified on either of them, that's really bad and pretty much means they could put anything in.

Just my €0.02 

Everyone of those machines has a 300 watt PSU.  In addition I did sell HP, Gateway, Dell etc but choose not to any longer since they are not upgradeable.  Right out the box the PSU need replaced for dependability, limited connectors if any extra (proprietary PSU) so out goes the idea of a second hard drive.  The memory configurations are always shared. 

But again lets get back to the support issue.  If you install XP on this machine and it is not offered by HP as an option, the HP call in support is now gone.  They will still continue to offer the hardware warranty but you will have no support if you call HP and they choose not to assist you.  Will most likely be a case by case basis.  Since the support persons are usually not "REAL SUPPORT" persons they type your problem into a database for "that machine" and get answers or solutions based on a Vista install not XP.

[mipoikel]

Manufacturing, yes, but support is still being reported as continuing until 2014 for XP Pro.

Microsoft cannot afford to abandon the hundreds of Fortune 500 companies who still use XP Pro and who refuse to switch to Vista.  That is the sole reason for the time period of support continuing for XP Pro.

It also would not surprise me if Dell continues to ship XP Pro as an option for quite some time after the first of the year.  Dell's license arrangement will allow them to continue to ship XP Pro as long as they want.

Yes, as other builders too. There is propably a Vista Business label in bottom of the pc/laptop... So it is downgraded Vista.

[TilDeath]

I just picked from 4 systems on the page he posted (which was after my post about the $500).

LOL I was joking ya