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Offline WWhiskey

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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2008, 10:08:07 AM »
the bottom line is , don't fly into or towards the barrel,(look before you leap) i have maybe 15 or more kills of planes this way, mostly b25's or IL-2's, at a range of about 600, if the plane is flying strait at you ( and he is because he is trying to aim his 75mm gun at you) the gun sight in the tank is almost full of airplane, pretty simple point and squeeze move there, an ostwind is no better than a main round of a tank gun in its ability to hit a moving flying target, the difference is your ability to see a bigger picture of that target and many more rounds to fire so as to get an idea as to where to fire the next round. having a tank hit you the first shot is no different than getting hit with the first round of an ostwind. i would have to give kudos to 'triumph' tho, he hit me at 1.5k at an angle, while i was in a ju-87 climbing out, i wanted to cuss like a , well i wanted to cuss some, but then after i thought about it , i remembered that i had gotten close to that far out before, and simply <<S>> such a great shot! :salute
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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2008, 03:04:59 PM »
Well, I am glad to see the posts and agree to all, just a quirk I noticed with the game and wanted to talk, not b**ch about it....  If you film your death by tank you will find the round not hitting you, but actually flying by you and that is the point I wanted to make.  If there is some sort of a spatial kill zone affixed to a tank round in terms of pixels or whatever than so be it, it would just be nice to know, that is all.  It is the absence of this knowledge that fuels the BBS and the rumor of cheats and so on.  I just like knowing stuff up front. 

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At any rate, to those who besmudge the IL2 and it's lethality, well it is about time we had a good attack plane with antiarmor capability.  Too bad we can't load 75mm AP into the B-25H. What about the anti-armor cannon pods for the JU-87 eh.........

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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2008, 05:50:38 PM »
You're seeing the round not hitting you, they are seeing the round directly hitting you.  If you watched his film you would see an accurate shot. 
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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2008, 05:55:40 PM »
Well, I am glad to see the posts and agree to all, just a quirk I noticed with the game and wanted to talk, not b**ch about it....  If you film your death by tank you will find the round not hitting you, but actually flying by you and that is the point I wanted to make.  If there is some sort of a spatial kill zone affixed to a tank round in terms of pixels or whatever than so be it, it would just be nice to know, that is all.  It is the absence of this knowledge that fuels the BBS and the rumor of cheats and so on.  I just like knowing stuff up front. 
What you are describing is not what you think it is, and is not unique to tank rounds.  It has to do with the slight difference between what you see and what he sees due to internet lag.  Look at any film where you are hit, and chances are pretty good you will see tracers fly past your aircraft but hear the hits.  The thing is, in his "reality" on his PC, he sees hit sprites, not tracers flying past.

Next time you are near a town where WWs or Ostis are taking down the town, watch where it looks like their shots are going.  Often it will look like they are shooting short or long, but buildings are blowing up anyway.  It is the same concept, and not anything that can be "corrected."
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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2008, 08:06:11 PM »
Very interesting.  Yes, I did film it and have seen it.  The lag thing is interesting.  Well, thanks to those who gave input. 
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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2008, 12:59:03 AM »
oh god, memories, about 3 months ago i was in a sherman and there was a lancaster flying away from me at 2.5 k, as he was turning back to make another run on me i fired,

i plucked his wing off at 2.5k in the middle of the turn, and that has been my furthest and best shot yet.



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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2008, 12:23:12 PM »
it's called leading your target i get hits on most planes except 262's,if they come in low enough,and i see them soon enough.with the pintle gun on my panzer. if u lead the target right u can hit it.and if they persist in attacking me i have and will shoot u down.
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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2008, 12:44:55 PM »
If I'm low and straight on with a tank I don't mind getting popped by the main gun. The shots that bother me are the shots where I'm diving in at 30 degrees or higher AOA or my all time favorite is when the tank misses you the first shot and then pops you as soon as he reloads at 180 degrees from the first shot whilst the plane is in a hi yo-yo. My main gun won't turn 180 faster than a plane will and I can't seem to elevate my gun to 45 degrees or higher for a shot. It is also almost always the shermans that do this.  Amazing or gamey...you choose.
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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2008, 12:58:13 PM »
So what im takeing from this is that tanks should just sit there and be fauder for any IL2 or B-25 that wants to shoot at them and not attempt to defend themselves?? I DONT THINK SO if any IL2 or B-25 not to mention any other plane comes in at an angle where i can get a bead on them with my tank  i'll main gun em in a heartbeat. The pintle guns on all the tanks in this game are weak and getting maingunned is the pilots fault for trying to strafe a tank at a less than optimal attitude. Comming in on a tank at 200ft in a gradual dive will get ya owned everytime. Besides it makes a good story to tell the grandkids :rofl

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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2008, 01:00:15 PM »
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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2008, 01:08:08 PM »
I shoot down planes quite often with the m-8,I`ve even begun telling others to use it as you would a ostwind.Not saying it`s right,but  :aokit`s effective.

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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2008, 01:30:20 PM »
I think I shoot more planes down with tanks than with an Osti, it is a little to easy.

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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2008, 02:15:34 PM »
I've become quite a good shot in a shore battery hitting the low goon heading into a base, and have taken out several stupidly low bombers as well.  Depending on the angle of the bombers, all 3 can be destroyed in 1 shot.  Makes for a big explosion.  :O
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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2008, 02:23:02 PM »
I complained to skuzzy..... there is just no way a lousy 88 round should hurt my Super 38. It has stressed skin and all.   :noid

















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Re: Tank vs. airplane
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2008, 02:24:23 PM »
ive done it some myself its not easy to do if you're not used to it but it isnt impossible when the plane is coming straight at you. i usually wait till it is 200-400 out and then shoot.
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