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Offline theNewB

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Re: questions for the tank nuts
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2008, 04:41:27 AM »
well blooz, ive given you information as to what the possible use for shurzen was, if you believe something that can penetrate 1 foot at "ANY" range and can be stopped by 5-10mm of armour then i must be completely wrong and have no idea what im talking about..... believe what you believe and ill do the same.


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Re: questions for the tank nuts
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2008, 10:47:08 AM »
The game hasn't changed since '43.

Same today as it was then.

http://xbradtc.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/heat-rounds-and-sabots/

The allies did the same thing to defend against Panzerfaust and Panzerscheck warheads but instead of using sheet metal they used sandbags, spare track and logs usually.

It's the reason alot of the pics of Sherman tanks they look like rolling junkpiles.
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Re: questions for the tank nuts
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2008, 06:08:34 PM »
well blooz, ive given you information as to what the possible use for shurzen was, if you believe something that can penetrate 1 foot at "ANY" range and can be stopped by 5-10mm of armour then i must be completely wrong and have no idea what im talking about..... believe what you believe and ill do the same.


EDIT: dont mind the piss mist, bad morning in game.
It penetrates at any range because it is channeling the explosion into a very narrow space, essentially instantly burning through the armor.  But to do this, it must be channelled/focused on the armor.

The skirt causes the explosion of the heat round to focus on / burn through the skirt -- after which is this nice gap of air -- and what energy comes out the other side is no longer focused or powerful enough to harm the main hull.
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Re: questions for the tank nuts
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2008, 06:33:42 PM »
Infantry Anti-Tank Mines (thrown), HEAT rounds, APHE rounds, Shaped Charged Weapons (Panzerfaust, Panzerschrek, Bazooka, PIAT ect), ATR rounds were all being upgraded or newly developed by 1942. Even a Molotov Cocktail from certain angles, could be thwarted by Shurzen to a degree.

There was a wide variety of threats to AFVs, certainly not just limited to domestically produced ATRs.

The "original purpose" of Shurzen may have been Russian ATRs, it was certainly not kept on their AFVs, <solely as a defense against just Russian ATRs>. 

The Germans did not remove Shurzen when deployed to the West, one can draw the obvious conclusion as to why.

 

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