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Re: Whale Wars
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2008, 10:37:21 AM »
Paul Watson finally got his own show, geez, he must be loving that. Pfft. Freakin drama queen.
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Re: Whale Wars
« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2008, 10:54:11 AM »
Why dont you guys go back and read everyone of Dentins posts. OK? Now there are two points that really stand out and one begs to be answered right?

The first is why are you guys trying to have an elevated conversation about whaling with him?

The second point, as it relates to the first, is why I left the thread.

Think about it? Think about everyone you've known thats been named "Dentin"? To be named "Dentin" you have to be a permanenet 14yo, with a faceful of zits, and mommy is always screaming for you to take out the trash.
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« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2008, 12:06:46 PM »
My girlfriend and I have been watching this show, first out of curiosity, now I don't know why I watch.  I know nothing of Maritime law, nor anything about biology, or whaling.  I assume I am a prime example of the demographic this show is targeting.  This is my .02, and I considered myself a clean slate to begin with.  

In my opinion they have made themselves look worse than the Whalers.  They have absolutely no credibility.  Their attempt to stage a kidnapping of their own people was a joke, the Japanese tried to let me them go, but they didn't want to leave the ship!  There is only one way to release someone who is on a ship.  It looks like in the next episode they are going to try a night boarding of a ship and sabotage their communication equipment.  Is that even legal? Are they not putting the lives of the japanese sailors on that ship at risk by messing with their communication equipment?  What's to keep them from destroying vital navigation equipment as well?  

Captain Ding Dong is a manipulative sweetheart bag who must have a ship full of star struck lemmings.  Rational responsible people would revolt against his ludicrous actions before the ship left port.  I'm sure Steve Irwin must be rolling in his grave seeing his name on that vessel.  I find myself rooting for the Whalers and hoping the Sea Shepherds fail miserably.
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« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2008, 12:15:59 PM »
I am quit suprise to see how many of you rutting for the japs.  Although, them fruit cakes on the sea sheport are morons.  I wouldn't past them if they have a room full of marijuana and sex orgies once a week.
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« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2008, 12:37:23 PM »
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« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2008, 12:56:45 PM »
I am quit suprise to see how many of you rutting for the japs.  Although, them fruit cakes on the sea sheport are morons.  I wouldn't past them if they have a room full of marijuana and sex orgies once a week.

Hmmmmmm. i might need to rethink my life....

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« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2008, 01:02:08 PM »
Hurrah, orgies with unshaven overweight unwashed borderline lesbians! Hurrah!

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« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2008, 01:02:44 PM »
Hurrah, orgies with unshaven overweight unwashed borderline lesbians! Hurrah!

Hmmmm..  might need to rethink my rethinking of my life....

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« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2008, 01:55:02 PM »
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Re: Whale Wars
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2008, 02:18:42 PM »
Why dont you guys go back and read everyone of Dentins posts. OK? Now there are two points that really stand out and one begs to be answered right?

The first is why are you guys trying to have an elevated conversation about whaling with him?

The second point, as it relates to the first, is why I left the thread.

Think about it? Think about everyone you've known thats been named "Dentin"? To be named "Dentin" you have to be a permanenet 14yo, with a faceful of zits, and mommy is always screaming for you to take out the trash.

Sorry Rich, I guess I gave him too much credit.  I though he wanted to converse intelligently.  Oh well.

I am quit suprise to see how many of you rutting for the japs.  Although, them fruit cakes on the sea sheport are morons.  I wouldn't past them if they have a room full of marijuana and sex orgies once a week.

I don't think anyone is standing up for the whalers.  Moray made some great points, and vigilanties aren't the way to stop the problem.  When taking sides in this case it's limited to choosing between the better of two evils, and generally, attacking people is considered worse than attacking animals.

Drawing more attention to the illegal whaling activities in order to stop them is admirable, but there are better ways than the Sea Shepherd's crew are using.  It's interesting that National Geographic has decided to give these guys fame.  These types of extreme tactics have been used by anti's for a long time, attempting to support a lot of "causes".  Abortion, hunting, trapping, fishing, wearing of fur, you name it.  Generally though, we see these people as extremists on the news, not as TV stars.  This show is giving other nut-cases ideas.

I wonder if someone could get a show on TV if they formed a band of vigilanties and went through the streets fighting crime.  Anyone wanna go rid the seas of pirates?  I bet we could get on TV if we did that!  Anyone have a boat?  Maybe something less-lofty as a starting point?  We could maybe rid the highways of SUV's using some night raids?
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Re: Whale Wars
« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2008, 02:42:45 PM »
Hmmmm..  might need to rethink my rethinking of my life....

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

And Im not rutting for the japs, Im just rutting against the sea shepards.
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« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2008, 03:52:27 PM »
MtMan, Don’t be surprise that these TV executives would do something like having a show on vigilanties fighting street crime.  Oh wait, "COPS" cover that part.  Maybe we should get spits and ponies in the air and fight street crime by air.  lol
Over all, the sea sheports are trying  to do something in a way that is not normal, if you would say.  They try to do this in 1940, i am sure the Japs would blow them out of the water.   
Yes, i am against the japs for whaling more than they should be.  i also understand that japs have been whaling for century too.  But the fact that they TRY to tell us that whales they are killing is for research is kind of hard to believe.  I am a biologist and i know it doesn’t take over a 1000 whale a year to study age, migration, behavior and what others studies they are looking at.  In fact, just killing them is no way to doing research on an animal.  Especially if they are endanger species. 
And I don’t support environmentalist groups like PETA or other crap groups. 
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« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2008, 04:12:59 PM »
Are you saying that a native alsakain can not be a modern day sailor?

The Native Americans in Alaska for the most part stick with traditional hunting methods when they go after whales.


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« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2008, 04:19:36 PM »
 It's interesting that National Geographic has decided to give these guys fame.  These types of extreme tactics have been used by anti's for a long

In all fairness, Nat'l Geographic wants nothing to do with them.  The Discovery Network is backboning the "documentary", but not funding the actual running of the ship.  I do wonder how long that might last should the ratings start elevating, though.

Also, Oakranger, to answer your question from a page or two prior, I'm a marine biologist.  I'm currently on the east coast of Florida working with toxins/parasite vectors in Tursiops truncatus (Bottlenose Dolphin) found in the resident population of the Indian River Lagoon.  
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Re: Whale Wars
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2008, 04:28:38 PM »

Also, Oakranger, to answer your question from a page or two prior, I'm a marine biologist.  I'm currently on the east coast of Florida working with toxins/parasite vectors in Tursiops truncatus (Bottlenose Dolphin) found in the resident population of the Indian River Lagoon.  

Hey, that sounds intresting.  How long have you been working on that?  Hope you don't mind me asking, what is your hypothesis? 

I am in Kansas, have my own consulting business for land management.  Here is my web site, www.workforgrass.com.  My specialty is range ecology or plant specialist. 
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