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Offline bloom25

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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2001, 02:31:00 AM »
If that bomber got in trouble all you would have to do is point the nose down a little.  Nothing except a fighter diving from 10K above could catch you.  Even then, if he blew the pass you would get away.

The thing does have a rather small bombload though.  It probably will be a nuisance raider at best.  (Unless you get 10 of them together for a HQ stike.   )



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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2001, 02:34:00 AM »
Heh, someone cut the propellars off.  

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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2001, 02:41:00 AM »
Just to be onry  

 
- "Perfidia" © 1997 Troy White

 
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Captain Don Bryan of the 328th FS, 352nd FG rolls out behind an Arado 234 "Blitz" bomber flown by Hauptman Hirshberger of 6./KG 76.  The action took place on the afternoon of March 14, 1945. While returning from escorting B-26 and A-26 medium bombers, Bryan spotted the AR 234 making a bombing run on the pontoon bridge at Remagen.  Having let an Arado get away from him during a mission on December 21, 1944, Don was not about to let that happen again. To compensate for the jet’s superior speed, Don positioned his P-51 Mustang so the German would have to fly toward him after his attack. As Hirshberger approached, Bryan began a dive that put him within range of the speedy bomber. His first burst knocked out the right engine and slowed the Arado down. This enabled the blue-nosed Mustang to stay in range and finish off one of the Third Reich’s "Wonder Weapons". Hirshberger jettisoned his canopy but was unable to get out before the crash. It was his first combat mission with 6./KG 76 and his first in the AR-234.

Great looking buff guys!  Looks like fun.

 

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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2001, 03:16:00 AM »
Torgo, fighter perk points are seperate from bomber perk points. You won't use up any of the Tempest-buying points by flying the Blitz  

Looks great!

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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2001, 03:38:00 AM »
it look`s great !! <S>
just 1 question fow to get that monster in Spit ?  

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« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2001, 04:45:00 AM »
So much for the History Channel, and 10 books I have on WWII.

Never heard of that weird looking thing...and Im a WWII junky. Must be reading and watching popular channels, not the "Hard Core Nazi Network."

Yawn... What a weird addition.

The Stuka would have been more UN-timley?

Good thing I don't run a software company, Im lost.

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« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2001, 06:02:00 AM »
 
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The Stuka would have been more UN-timley?

And who would fly Stuka in MA? It would have as much changes of survival as snowman has in the desert.

There were only two bombers worth to be perked and it was obvous that B-29 wont be it this early.

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I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.

Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

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Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
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« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2001, 06:36:00 AM »
I would not expect to see very many of these babies caught by P-51's, unless the pilots are very very stupid  

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« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2001, 08:26:00 AM »
 
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I would not expect to see very many of these babies caught by P-51's, unless the pilots are very very stupid

I think Ar 234 Blitz is something like 30-50 mph faster at all alts than any prop plane we have in game. So unless the prop plane has significant alt advantage it has quite small change of catching Blitz.

If Blitz is forced to turn and it does not have alt it is in danger since I think it will accelerate worser than fastes prop planes.

Ar 234 will be very interesting plane to try out!

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Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!
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Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

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« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2001, 08:28:00 AM »
 Dune beat me to it!     And Verm, of course thier aint any stupid folk in the MA  


 This would make a great tool for surgical strikes *IF* pilots can get good with it. Arados come in fast to take out the fh and VH at a field and then the slower craft can come in and clean up    
  Got yourself two enemy fleets off your coast, Arado one of em. OR Both!!  
 
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« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2001, 09:14:00 AM »
I can't wait to play with the thing.. certainly it will be a great "FAST ATTACK" weapon.. but it's use w/ prop planes in a arena setting where hangers are down for only 15 min at a time means good coordination will be required to make the most of it.

I can see an elite group of buffers banding together with these things and raising real havoc with the enemy's attacks... Example: attack detected launching from a24 towards P32. BIG jump in bar dar.. 4 Arado's scramble at A33, go to a24 in 9 minutes. They arrive at a24 before the raid to the port does.. and the arado's take down the barracks; the BH and the two FH' and VH. The attack on the port is 'marooned'.. no follow on waves of attackers will be comming from 24, and with just one ack Buff and a goon A24 could fall.

The weak points of tha Arado will be the inadvisability of loitering, poor acceleration, lack of forward araments, lousy climb rate, restricted bomb loadouts.

One thing worth considering.. in some JABO attacks I've come in very low and very fast in my pony running right thru active acks to strike hangers and radars, released, and roared right out the other side, nary a scratch. The faster you go; the lower the risk of the acks tagging you. I cant wait to try this thing on a low-level strike, it may be the solution to the poor grab rate, increasing it's transit speed even more towards a 'hot spot'.

If it does what I think it will do; it'll be a great 'firemans special'.  

 



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« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2001, 10:09:00 AM »
According to Nath's data above, the thing can carry 3x1000-lb bombs, and goes 460 mph.  That makes it the best light bomber in the sim.  It's only drawback is that it can't vulch after it hits a field  

As for climb, well, any plane that can go 460 is gonna be able to climb just fine once it drops its load.  You won't be catching this plane unless you go hunting for it pretty cleverly.

It's an Axis P-47N with no guns    I wish they'd put one in Warbirds, so the durn LW would shut the hell up and fly instead of squawkin about the "jabo gap" all the time  

<S> if you're gonna have "perk planes," this one's a good choice.

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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2001, 10:18:00 AM »
Yeah, I think you have to stack a whole lot of "if's" together to get a hold of an Arado.

If you have a huge alt advantage.

If you are going in the same general direction.

If you are in one of the faster prop jobs.

If the Arado pilot is preoccupied.

If the Arado pilot isn't even mildly defended.

If the Arado doesn't have any alt to dive away.

In clean configuration this puppy will be faster by far at any alt than anything else in the game, and you better believe that anyone flying this thing will drop their load and vacate PRONTO if trouble develops. No suicide mentality here, or you lose the ride.

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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2001, 10:28:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Jochen:
And who would fly Stuka in MA?

I would, often


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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2001, 11:07:00 AM »
The point is a Stuka would not be a perk bomber anyway. This thread is concerning the identity of the new perk bomber... not against a Stuka, but you wouldn't see people clammoring into B17's and Lancasters trying to earn enough points to get the "Wonder Ride" the Stuka wouldn't be.

I would guess (but how would I know?) the Stuka will make it eventually. There are better choices for perk bomber.