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Re: G limitations on guns and engines
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2009, 11:09:46 PM »
Some great ideas here, thanks for posting.  My Dad flew both P47’s and P51’s during WWII.  I checked through his log books and he reported two different gun jams both times in P51’s due to pulling negative G’s .  But never lost the entire gun package.   His only problem with guns during his time in P47’s was from flack damage to a wing.

He flew D models of both aircraft based out of England and later France.  He transitioned from the 47 to 51.  He liked the 47 because it could take a beating and get you home.  Not so with the 51.

Some great ideas here, thanks for posting.  My Dad flew both P47’s and P51’s during WWII.  I checked through his log books and he reported two different gun jams both times in P51’s due to pulling negative G’s .  But never lost the entire gun package.   His only problem with guns during his time in P47’s was from flack damage to a wing.

He flew D models of both aircraft based out of England and later France.  He transitioned from the 47 to 51.  He liked the 47 because it could take a beating and get you home.  Not so with the 51.

In my youth I spent a few summers ferrying WWII era aircraft from airshow to airshow, I have actual time in P40, F4UA1, T6, B25.  They are all prone to overheat if you push me.  Operating temperature of the engines had to be watched at all times.    Military power could be used, but was limited, unlike it is here in AHII.

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Re: G limitations on guns and engines
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2009, 01:11:24 AM »
Good info Traveler - very cool that he flew them in WWII - bet he has some stories to tell.

How'd you get that ferry gig?  That's awesome! 
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Re: G limitations on guns and engines
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2009, 01:01:16 PM »
Good info Traveler - very cool that he flew them in WWII - bet he has some stories to tell.

How'd you get that ferry gig?  That's awesome! 

He didn't talk much about it when I young, we talked more after my service in VietNam.  I had a better understanding of the demons he faced following his war.  My father passed away a few years ago in his sleep.  We shared a common love of flying that got us past the rough times that any father / son relationship goes through. 
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Re: G limitations on guns and engines
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2009, 01:46:01 PM »
He didn't talk much about it when I young, we talked more after my service in VietNam.  I had a better understanding of the demons he faced following his war.  My father passed away a few years ago in his sleep.  We shared a common love of flying that got us past the rough times that any father / son relationship goes through. 






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Re: G limitations on guns and engines
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2009, 04:52:41 PM »
We shared a common love of flying that got us past the rough times that any father / son relationship goes through. 
That's great, my dad & I are the same way - both love to fly, have spent many hours together slipping the surly bonds.
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Re: G limitations on guns and engines
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2009, 01:33:31 AM »
He didn't talk much about it when I young, we talked more after my service in VietNam.  I had a better understanding of the demons he faced following his war.  My father passed away a few years ago in his sleep.  We shared a common love of flying that got us past the rough times that any father / son relationship goes through. 
May he Rest In Peace.  :salute

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Re: G limitations on guns and engines
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2009, 09:24:23 AM »
Everyone flies at full throttle most of the time - that's not realistic at all.
The problem is game play - the distances have to be relatively 'short' so that you can contact the enemy pretty quickly without getting bored. HTC have implemented a 2 x fuel burn anyway, but that still means there isn't an incentive for adopting realistic cruise settings (except in certain cases like flying top-cover, a long range patrol or long range bombing mission).
I don't see an easy answer to this.

There is a parallel with GVs - they always belt along at full speed which they rarely achieved in practice because of rough/soft ground.
Here we are, living on top of a molten ball of rock, spinning around at a 1,000mph, orbiting a nuclear fireball and whizzing through space at half-a-million miles per hour. Most of us believe in super-beings which for some reason need to be praised for setting this up. This, apparently, is normal.