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Offline Slate

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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2009, 03:30:54 PM »
   Many Gvers have complained about being seen through trees when they can't see the other way. I agree with the Defaults should blend nicely with the terrain. That would be the fairest solution. Don't pay attention to those who deride your issue with: hide better, fly better, play better they just don't have a thought to contribute.  :P
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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2009, 04:48:22 PM »
Yes it can.. not the same "lowend" computers though, as what's being a lowend and what's being a highend computer is ever changing. There will always be players that have to tweak options to get some reasonable performance while playing. We have much more skins than in the past now, almost impossible to preload them all. Thus I (having a mid-range system) have disabled other player's skins because I don't like that minor stutter when AH is loading skins from my HD and I don't really notice (or care about) any skins at all in the air ;)

That is why I said very lowend, meaning very old p4 (1.4 or slower).  Now I do have a p3 1gig here that will play this game with skins enabled and not miss a beat.  Problem is, 80% of the people who play this game know nothing on setting up a computer for gaming.  My daughters computer is a AMD64 3200+ (754pin processor) with 1 gig of ram in it running a Nvidia 7600GT video card and 2 hard drives in the system.  c: drive is operating system and d: is the game drive.  Doing this allow the comptuter to access both HD's at same time for either resources/info.  With this setup she gets 50+ fps at 1024x768 res and sliders at max detail and all boxes checked including skins.  Now she can't run any Anti Aliasing as that just pukes it in massive GV battles.

My system is only mid stream.  It only a AMD64 4800+ dual core (939 pin) with 2 gig of cas 2 ram.  Only thing that is near high end is the video card, a Nvidia 9800GTX+ with 512 meg ram on it.  I have 3 HD's, c for system, d for games, e for vitural memory and backup files.  I have 8xAA enabled at 1440x900 res, 1024 high textures, skins preloaded and at max detail sliders/ range.  I very rarely go below 65 fps even in huge furballs.  All my systems that are setup for gaming do run more then 17 processes running before going into the game.

Again, it all in the tweaking and setup of your rig that will get the most out of it.  But like I said before, many here don't know how or know anything about this.
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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2009, 05:19:20 PM »
AKDogg,
hey budd, I dont recall ever asking HTC to maintain a Nastalga system just for me. However if they did include system resource use adjustments in their product then they must have intended for people to use them to get better performance if "Needed" or if only "Desired".  :cool:

And if you or anybody else has any dilusions that I am reducing system resource drains so that I can "Game the Game" or get some kind of advantage... just pull up my score bro and take a gander. I dont think that my rating in "Any" category will support any such notion  :cool:

Check me out on the Score board bro SEKayBay and I think you will find your argument that I am using system resource drain as an "Excuse" to "Game the Game" wont hold water.  :cool:

I dont believe that at any time since I started this game I have ever been below the 50% mark on the score board. I think that score board will support the idea that I have a pretty serious Gravity Well around me at all times in game.

And for those of you that think dropping $500 - $900 on a system is pocket change, hey tell me where you live so I can follow you around and grab up all the cash you dribble on the deck as you wander around. Cause that is a heck of a lot of shoes, socks, clothing, groceries and Doctor visits for my family that I would be dumping into something just for me. It takes a long time to save up that kind of expendable cash. Like another posted, I am doing good if I can sock away > $40 a month for my own personal use. Guess my priority is taking care of my Wife and Kids first and me last.   :cool:

So until I can sock away enough to do a serious upgrade I will continue to reduce the system resource drain settings to improve my system performance.  :D

But ya know, even if I had the top system on the planet my score would still be in the toilet... cause I suck.  :cool:

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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2009, 05:29:45 PM »
YO  Bmathis if your saying whati think u saying....Its impossible to hide an orange gv in green no matter how well u hide.....

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Yea pretty much. I'm not the greatest of Gver's, but I really enjoy the ground aspect of Aces High.
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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2009, 06:19:05 PM »
or maybe ... change the "default" skin for those tanks ?

As the "default" terrain colors for the ground in this game seem to be green more than not, I think this is the best idea, make all the tank default skins a green skin.
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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2009, 07:23:39 PM »
Seriously, you must be trolling or something. Seeing black helicopters around corners?

This facetious argument has been brought up time and time again by the same small group of people.

It's a NON issue.

The default skin is NOT tied to the terrain, nor should it be. Nor would 1 terrain ALL be the same color (fighting at 1 base would have different ground tiles than fighting at another base on the same map).

You're complaining over something as a possible excuse for why you keep getting killed, is the only thing I can think of, otherwise you would never bring the issue up.

It's NOT a conspiracy. It's NOT out to get you. The default skin is the only one you'd have without the time and efforts of the folks that make the "custom" skins. You might appreciate them more if you weren't allowed to have any for a while. The only (repeat: ONLY) reason the "disable skins" option is there is to ease system problems on slower/weaker PCs, and you need to be careful of the impact your blind blanket request would have to a LOT of AH players.


P.S. Just ask for GV icons. End of story.

Krusty, I love you man, but no.

This is a HUGE thing. I've had Panzers blend in with the bushes in a green camo, so that if you aren't looking for them, you might not see them at first. But when its bright orange, it WILL stand out. This is a non-issue with the M4, the M3, the M8, and the early T-34 because these are all green default skins. The Tiger (The highest-perk-cost GV), the Panzer, The Wirbelwind, the Ostwind, and the SDK are ALL bright yellow/orange default skins. Its a dirty trick that DOES make a big difference when youre in a tank.

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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2009, 07:27:53 PM »
By the same logic it's totally and morally unfair and a complete bias that the default plane skins are NOT sky blue! I'm quitting unless all the defaults are changed to sky blue!!!!  :furious :( :mad: :mad: :mad:



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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2009, 07:33:21 PM »
when i did that to try and improve my cpu performance disabling skins made it worse
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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2009, 07:35:26 PM »
By the same logic it's totally and morally unfair and a complete bias that the default plane skins are NOT sky blue! I'm quitting unless all the defaults are changed to sky blue!!!!  :furious :( :mad: :mad: :mad:



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Ah, but notice the difference. Color in the air makes no difference because you always get a bright red icon over them long before spotting them becomes an issue. It is impossible to "hide" a plane. Tanks however do not have icons, and thus it is necessary to find them based on their appearance alone. And so, it actually DOES matter what the thing looks like. A sky-blue P-51 is just as easy to find as a hot-pink P-51. A green tiger in a bush is 10 x harder to find than an orange Tiger in a bush.

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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2009, 07:38:48 PM »
The default panzer skin really does stick out compared to other skins....
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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2009, 07:41:20 PM »
By the same logic it's totally and morally unfair and a complete bias that the default plane skins are NOT sky blue! I'm quitting unless all the defaults are changed to sky blue!!!!  :furious :( :mad: :mad: :mad:



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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2009, 07:46:49 PM »
<<<<Again, it all in the tweaking and setup of your rig that will get the most out of it.  But like I said before, many here don't know how or know anything about this.>>>>

AKDogg, you are so correct. I've tried to explain to people about creating a "gaming" startup profile that has most services disabled, but most don't or won't listen.

If people would check out the blackviper site and spend a little time you can tweak a 2.5 gig machine to run online games like a champ.

http://www.blackviper.com/
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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2009, 07:59:45 PM »
AKDogg,
However if they did include system resource use adjustments in their product then they must have intended for people to use them to get better performance if "Needed" or if only "Desired".  :cool:


HTC will never do this as it creates a liability issue because they will be messing with stuff that was not designed by them.  All game manufactures would not do this.  This is your responsibility, not HTC's.  However HTC has posted tips and tweaks to help you out with that.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,71591.0.html

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,231506.0.html
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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2009, 08:33:24 PM »
Isn't the whole purpose of selecting GV camo to best blend into your terrain to avoid detection by the enemy?
That is one purpose, the other is to look damn sexy while killing :D
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It's a NON issue.
You would know right? Seeing as how you hardly ever use tanks. :rolleyes:


I dont think it would be too hard to change the default skin with an already pre-made skin but I dont think it is a huge deal either way.
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Re: Disabling other players skins
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2009, 08:58:34 PM »
By the same logic it's totally and morally unfair and a complete bias that the default plane skins are NOT sky blue! I'm quitting unless all the defaults are changed to sky blue!!!!  :furious :( :mad: :mad: :mad:



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You miss the point entirely.  If the default skin of all GVs stood out like a sore thumb, there would be no issue.  But the default for the Sherman and to a lesser extent the T-34s blend into the terrain colors much better than the default skins of the Tiger or Panzer.  Changing the default skin on the Tiger and Panzer to a green shade would make the complaint go away.
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