Call me obsessed, but I watch every air con in the area until their icon disappears, then I sit and listen and look for any GV's that might be too close. Once I have done this, then I will land a vehicle. Like Bald said, I have driven several K past the spawn to get a safe landing. I have never made a successful PT landing, so thanks for the info Bald. As far as the pier, do you have to pull the PT into one of the slips, or just stop next to them?