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Offline Dago

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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2009, 02:59:29 PM »
Virtually every police force, military arm and special operations group has abandon revolvers for semi-automatics.  In the face of reality, with the fact that most if not all practical pistol competitions are won by auto's, it always amazes me that someone would come on here and say "revolver".  Why not just advocate sticks and stones, they were a weapon even farther in the past.
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2009, 03:26:56 PM »
Dago - did they switch for reasons of reliability, or for the increase in "firepower" (number of rounds carried)?

I love my revolvers, but for CCW have carried autos for the last 14 years because they are flatter, easier to conceal, and carry more rounds.  I own 3 Glock 9mm's (26, 19, and 17) and have never had a jam in any of them with factory ammo.  In fact, the only problem with any of them was on the little 26 - the adjustable plastic sight that came with the weapon came loose.  Replaced it with steel Trijicon night sights, and problem was permanently solved.

While everybody seems to think auto's are prone to jamming, I've also experienced it in revolvers - bullets coming forward out of the case mouth and locking up the cylinder, high primers sticking up and resulting in the same problem, cases getting stuck in the cylinder and difficult to eject, cylinder base pin coming usncrewed making it impossible to close the cylinder, etc.

In the end you need to carry what YOU feel comfortable and confident with, be it revolver or auto.

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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2009, 04:44:40 PM »
Dago - did they switch for reasons of reliability, or for the increase in "firepower" (number of rounds carried)?



While everybody seems to think auto's are prone to jamming, I've also experienced it in revolvers - bullets coming forward out of the case mouth and locking up the cylinder, high primers sticking up and resulting in the same problem, cases getting stuck in the cylinder and difficult to eject, cylinder base pin coming usncrewed making it impossible to close the cylinder, etc.

In the end you need to carry what YOU feel comfortable and confident with, be it revolver or auto.

Thank you, so many want to try and spread the illusion that revolvers never jam.  They do, as do semi-autos.
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2009, 05:51:40 PM »
I did a lot of research and sampled quite a few handguns at a local firing range before I found what to me is THE ideal:  the Springfield XD .45 ACP in four-inch barrel.  I looked at the new version too, but still prefer the older one.  Add a Glock GTL-22 laser/light and you have the perfect home defense gun and plinker as long as you fire and clean it a couple times a year to stay profient. 
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2009, 07:14:25 PM »
He can buy whatever the hell he wants to buy for whatever reason he wants to use.  It's not easy to carry around a 12 ga shotgun in your jacket when you're out and about and a revolver only gives you 6 rounds.

The new XDM 19+1 9mm is an awsome buy, hell, it holds 20 rounds...

I've fired my friends .40 XD and it feels pretty sweet, kicks like a 9mm.

(I carry and use a Sig P226 9mm, I plan on getting the .40 or the XD(M) in the next year or so)

some states it's illegal to have high capacity mags.
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2009, 07:15:41 PM »
Sucks to be them.  :aok
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2009, 07:40:56 PM »
I am in the market to purchase a pistol.  Does anyone here own the Springfield Arms XD?  Doing a little research on the web finds that it has been well received and is dependable.  The new XDM is out but I figure I'll find a good deal for the older XD.  I'm not into competition shooting, just buying it for personal protection.

EDIT:  I'm looking for a non-revolver pistol in the 40 cal range.

Thanks.
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2009, 07:45:23 PM »
I've shot the 9mm, .40 and .45ACP XDs. The 9mm was ok but the bigger ones were hard to handle. The light weight poly frames are great for carrying, but when it comes time to use it they don't handle recoil very well, the barrel rise is hard to control and its difficult to get multiple rounds on target in quick succession.

My buddy bought a XD in .40. He put 500 rounds through it and had 2 jams and one other failure. Thats a .6% chance of a failure each time you pull the trigger. (cheap ammo, I admit, but still...)

I've put 1000+ rounds through my S&W .357 revolver, and never had a single failure.

The choice is clear. When I need to use a weapon to save my or my wife's life, I'm going to pick the one that worked every time. I can't think of many defense situations where you'd need more than 6 rounds, unless you are fending off a horde of zombies.  :lol
tell him to take his xd 40  back or simply clean it :aok I have put a lot more rounds through mine and never had a jam... Also If he is buying cheap target ammo it will jam from time to time but thats the ammo :O
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2009, 07:49:21 PM »
Thank you, so many want to try and spread the illusion that revolvers never jam.  They do, as do semi-autos.
well they really don't jam but they do misfire..Kind of hard for a revolver to jam unless something crazy happens but then you would probably be worrying about missing digits ;)
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2009, 09:40:03 PM »
well they really don't jam but they do misfire..Kind of hard for a revolver to jam unless something crazy happens but then you would probably be worrying about missing digits ;)

It's not hard for a revolver to jam, they do it quite well.  Personally I think saying they don't actually reflects lack of experience with one.  Don't forget there are about twice as many moving parts in a revolver as a semi.
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2009, 10:28:46 PM »
I carry a .45ACP Kimber Ultra Carry II in Stainless with an extra magazine for a total of 15 rounds.  My next purchase will likely be a Glock 27 for times when the 1911, despite being very compact, is still just a little big due to the grip.  Being wintertime it's very easy to conceal but in the summer with lighter clothing it can print which isn't exactly a good thing.

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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2009, 10:35:20 PM »
I ear you there, I have a sexy muscular body that I show by wearing tight fitting overpriced model clothing. Concealing in summer is an issue, I guess I'll carry my piece in my crouch, it'll impress the girls even more.
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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2009, 10:37:44 PM »
I don't have a sexy muscular body :( nor do I wear tight clothing yet it still prints.

Besides I hate the tan lines a shoulder holster gives you while at the beach  :D

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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2009, 10:56:37 PM »
I am in the market to purchase a pistol.  Does anyone here own the Springfield Arms XD?  Doing a little research on the web finds that it has been well received and is dependable.  The new XDM is out but I figure I'll find a good deal for the older XD.  I'm not into competition shooting, just buying it for personal protection.

EDIT:  I'm looking for a non-revolver pistol in the 40 cal range.

Thanks.

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Re: New Pistol
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2009, 11:43:17 PM »
I have a XD 45 Tactical (5 inch) and my wife has a XD 40. I recommend either. Both have had around 500 rounds fired through them and no problems. For protection I use Hornady TAP ammo. They are coated to help keep jams down and use a low flash powder.

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