hehe...not really, this goes back to zazens comments. It's not possible to entirely eliminate risk if you engage the enemy, however you can take prudent steps to manage that risk and minimize negative fall out. The real key here isn't the flying, its the state of mind required. To me the functional benchmark can be defined one of 2 ways. To me the most prudent is do you have a hole in the plane. In any hop that you acquire a scratch on the paint (I didn't) you failed to properly manage your engagements. The higher standard would be if at any time you actually gave a shot window and simply fell to chance (no matter how small). This is a very tough standard to meet. A good example would be shane and I in the other clip. I traded a close in snap shot for a fleeting long range shot and he traded the risk of a snapshot for an angular advantage. I'm simply trying to clarify my comments in the other thread. If you learn to fly the way I am here you'll maximize potential and greatly minimize risk. You could easily go 5, 10 or more hops without taking a bullet hole. Now you have no control over what you'll find or kill, thats entirely random...