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Offline mechanic

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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2009, 06:36:55 PM »
smokin loon, if you only been playing since 2008 you havent been here long enough to see the changes.

If you didnt play AH2 beta and first release you could have no real idea how far the game has come.

If you didnt play AH1 then, same...


if you did all those, then you should have learnt not to whine :D
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2009, 08:04:40 AM »
Oh such snobbery you display for having nothing but a post count to stand on :rolleyes:

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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2009, 10:55:08 AM »
Mmmmmm... if we lower the ENY everyone will start flying the Tank monster. Then they'll find out that its initial turn rate can and does beat Spit16s. Then they'll learn how to hit with the 30mm. Basically, it will be a nightmare. Keep the 152 the secret weapon it is! Haha

Hmmm, I tend to not think so. Even if they gave a small amount of perks each time you flew the 152, it still probably wouldn't be the most popular plane flown (other than people going to the runway and towering for the perks). There are just certain factors in a plane that most players don't like. Some of them are: poor sustained turn, poor forward view, poor ballistics. Sound like the 152? Nobody cares to learn how to maintain E, utilize roll rate and zoom, and fight at altitude.

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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2009, 06:42:55 PM »
Just one bump.  There's no way the K4 is at 20 while the 152 is at 5.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2009, 07:13:46 PM »
The D-40 ENY might be too high... but there's three important things the N has over the D-40: speed, roll-rate, and range.  To my mind, the P-47N is the supreme boom n' zoom aircraft of the American planeset, better than the P-51D.

but the d-40 fires back with them dive flaps and that first notch of high speed flaps also in the n i lawn dart d 40 i almost lawn dart but with 50 ft left i lvl out and fly away ack firing
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2009, 02:13:28 AM »
Re-perk the Ta152.

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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2009, 07:42:46 PM »
Why is the pony at 8eny while the p47n is at 5?
Doesnt really make sense to me.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2009, 08:41:27 PM »
Why is the pony at 8eny while the p47n is at 5?
Doesnt really make sense to me.


+1 to P-47N for firepower.  8 .50s.
+1 to P-47N for ords.
+1 to P-47N for range.
Speeds are comparable.
High Alt maneuverability is comparable if not +1 to P-47N.



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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2009, 09:09:02 PM »
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2009, 10:03:13 PM »

+1 to P-47N for firepower.  8 .50s.
+1 to P-47N for ords.
+1 to P-47N for range.
Speeds are comparable.
High Alt maneuverability is comparable if not +1 to P-47N.



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All those apply to D40, save range, (and D40 has over 30 min fuel internal), and damn near NOONE flies N as fighter, which brings into question its 'easy' factor
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2009, 11:09:51 PM »
All those apply to D40, save range, (and D40 has over 30 min fuel internal), and damn near NOONE flies N as fighter, which brings into question its 'easy' factor

Whenever I fly the P-47, it's as a fighter 90% of the time, and 90% of those sorties are in the N.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2009, 11:18:33 PM »
All those apply to D40, save range, (and D40 has over 30 min fuel internal), and damn near NOONE flies N as fighter, which brings into question its 'easy' factor

WEP?  More powerful engine?  Now we're compairing the N to the D's....

Dunno.


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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2009, 09:07:10 AM »
Whenever I fly the P-47, it's as a fighter 90% of the time, and 90% of those sorties are in the N.
AS do I, but far more so---I prolly get 95% of my air-to-air kills each month in N--I simply haven't the talent I've seen a very few folks put forth in the slower D40/25 to survive in low furballs without the benefit of superior numbers, and if you hang out at jug's prime alt looking for a fight, you will be waiting a long time. ANY sort of eny hit, the 152 and N are in the hangar,( planes which very few folks choose to fly even when they are available.) N's original eny cutoff WAS 10 or so, then it was decided to drop it to 5, while leaving one of the most-used, fastest fight-attackers in the game at 8
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2009, 09:40:51 AM »
I see your point.  Maybe it's fair to say that current ENY values place too much emphasis on WEP performance and not enough on standard military power performance.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2009, 03:30:29 PM »
Maybe most players don't survive longer than a little over 5min.
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