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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2009, 11:51:06 AM »
I'm sure not everyone is lucky enough to have their own full CH setup.



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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2009, 12:22:58 PM »
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the X52 is either the, or among the cheapest full HOTAS sets you can buy, hence there are more of them..

you see more regular X52s than X52 Pros..  oh noes, the regular is better than the pro! :O :lol

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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2009, 12:31:12 PM »
ST290 walmart special for me. I take it back every 89 days and get a new one. Sweeet.
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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2009, 12:37:44 PM »
ST290 walmart special for me. I take it back every 89 days and get a new one. Sweeet.

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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2009, 04:10:53 PM »
I was struck with this when I was at The Con last year.

In the 90's, the WB Cons looked like a Thrustmaster Convention.

In the early 2000's, the hardware was 30% TM, 30% CH, and the remainder was split between Microsoft and Logitech.

The 2008 Con looked like an X52 convention. It was all Saitek gear except for 2 CH setups and one Thrustmaster setup (which was mine.)

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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2009, 12:30:04 PM »
Less expensive to maintain, easy to work on yourself, less expensive initial investment...sounds like that would be a good reason.

I'd be willing to wager that those with Saitcrap gear will spend more money over the years for replacement parts or sticks than someone that buys CH gear.  I've only had to spend $12 bucks to maintain my CH gear over the last 7 years and that was to replace a potentiometer that had gone bad about 4 years ago.  I haven't calibrated my stick in the last year (only had to recalibrate after building my new system) and prior to that only time I calibrated was when I reformatted my old system.

Sure, Saitcrap stuff might be less inexpensive than CH gear but in the long run, you probably end up spending more in trying to keep that Saitcrap gear running.


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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2009, 01:01:53 PM »
I went from CH to Saitek many years ago and did never regret it. Turned out to me much cheaper in the long run.
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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2009, 01:22:26 PM »
Like my X-52, won't be switching.

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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2009, 01:37:55 PM »
I'd be willing to wager that those with Saitcrap gear will spend more money over the years for replacement parts or sticks than someone that buys CH gear.  I've only had to spend $12 bucks to maintain my CH gear over the last 7 years and that was to replace a potentiometer that had gone bad about 4 years ago.  I haven't calibrated my stick in the last year (only had to recalibrate after building my new system) and prior to that only time I calibrated was when I reformatted my old system.

Sure, Saitcrap stuff might be less inexpensive than CH gear but in the long run, you probably end up spending more in trying to keep that Saitcrap gear running.


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Well I was referring to buying a Toyota as compared to a Chevy with that comment.  Only really the intial cost bears out in the X52 to CH comparison.  Well maybe not:

I bought used CH PRO pedals and love them.  They are great.  I was given a second hand X52 and I love it as well.

My only complaint on the X52 is the slider on the throttle is a little buggy on mine.  For being free with that only defect I love it.

The pedals I had to pay about $50 since they were used.  I had to crack them open a few months ago to fix the wire running to the toe brake on the left side.  That wasn't much fun, but now they are back to 100%.

So thats where I stand on this whole deal.  I'd love some more CH gear, but why buy when what I have works fine?  Maybe when the X52 goes I'll look at CH gear, hopefully I'll have the cash to handle it.
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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2009, 01:39:54 PM »
IMO the x52 is hideous cheap and nasty looking I mean what why the hell do you need a finger guard on a joystick unless
you plan on attaching a blade too it too go fencing or something???  :rolleyes: and the blue lights on it?? necessary??
I dunno a stick should be a pretty simple thing in my view products that are overloaded with gimmicks tend too be that way
to distract the buyer for lack of quality in their primary functions??
The garb says it has a "spring loaded safety cover for the fire buttons" ??? Nice safety feature there in case you 'kill' anyone
accidentally in a game?? we wouldn't want that would we  :lol :lol

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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2009, 01:59:33 PM »
Great Ch products deals on Ebay. As the guys said, they last a long time. Buying used is a very good idea. There are many that buy this stuff for one game and never use it again.


Not much can go wrong with the throt or peds either. Top of the line stuff IMO. Fighter Sticks from 40 to 60 bucks ..WOW they should be 80 used. Brand new combat sticks are 77.00 I think.

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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2009, 02:15:16 PM »
I'd be willing to wager that those with Saitcrap gear will spend more money over the years for replacement parts or sticks than someone that buys CH gear. 

And you'd lose. My X45 has never needed work (I'm not even sure how old it is now, maybe 5 years?), my CH Pro Pedals have the toe brake problem (bad design imho) and I'm on my 2nd set.

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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2009, 02:28:03 PM »
And you'd lose. My X45 has never needed work (I'm not even sure how old it is now, maybe 5 years?), my CH Pro Pedals have the toe brake problem (bad design imho) and I'm on my 2nd set.

If you don't mind fiddling with the springs the toe brake wire isn't that horrible to fix.  All told I spent less than half an hour and most of that was getting the springs hooked up while closing the shell.
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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2009, 02:33:01 PM »
And you'd lose. My X45 has never needed work (I'm not even sure how old it is now, maybe 5 years?), my CH Pro Pedals have the toe brake problem (bad design imho) and I'm on my 2nd set.

The toe brake pots are $10 ea and easy to replace.

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Re: observation from pigpen post/photos
« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2009, 02:36:21 PM »
It's probably the wire running to the pots and not the pot.
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