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Offline Shuffler

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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #75 on: February 03, 2009, 04:01:00 PM »
 Yes a Game, a Simulation of real war where the consequence of lead was final. Those that choose to play this game play by the rules set by the host not the rules a player or players would impose on others as the "right way to play". If you enjoy the HO then HO. There are ways to avoid it. You enjoy gaming the game to see your name in lights Enjoy yourself. Only you can ruin your day.  Kill or be killed is the key ingredient for the Fighter scores so don't tell me it's not a Simulation of war where that was the rule.

  

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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #76 on: February 03, 2009, 04:16:04 PM »
I've given up on this issue pretty much.  The tards are going to continue flying like tards with their heads stuck in the sand like a bunch of ostridges and never ever listen to a word of reason... it's their $15, they can do whatever they want, no consideration for the bigger picture.  As HT has said many times the problem is that of the path of least resistance.  Tards like this path.  We can try to change this behavior all we want, but only a small few will see the light.  The only viable answer is coading the tards into doing things differently. 

The question is how though.  Every change made has been on this note I think though.  ENY, breaking up the arenas, the base order capture (failed unfortunately), has been to try to alter that path of least resistance.  However each time the tards (I guess I'm being harsh here, because a huge majority of them are just don't know any better.  It's the seasoned vets who I refer to as the true tards who lead others to this base level) find a way around and the status quo doesn't change. 

I hope Dale tries something radical.  Now that CT is out of the way and all attention is back on the MA, lets shake it up and try some new things.  Different strat, modified and more penal ENY/ Zone ENY, perked ords, beefing up field/town defenses more, something.  Hell, even experiment with things on one map in one of the LW arenas see how it plays out.  I'm sure if it's good the tards will hide in the other arena and cry about whatever changes are implemented.  I say that's a good thing.  I wouldn't mind losing a vast majority of the tards to restore some balance to gameplay.  HT would mind it though, so it'll probably be something middle of the road if he does make changes, but please Dale, try something...


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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2009, 04:32:15 PM »
Another case of the vocal minority, dictating to the silent majority.

Its always the same dozen or so guys too.
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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2009, 04:39:48 PM »
There are always a few players insisting that their ways are correct and everyone else should play by the standards of those few who have a higher moral sense.

There is something in this game for everybody.  Find it and shut up already. 

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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2009, 04:41:30 PM »
Boner if there wasn't an issue we never would have seen ENY, split up arenas, or a field-ordered base capture system, now would we?

Please make your answer specific to the question.

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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2009, 04:52:41 PM »
The correct way to play AH is to tell your self, hey its my $15 and I'll play this game how ever the hell I want.

Ask any of the Flying Circus guys how I fly and they will tell you that I spend most my time flying inverted, killshooting myself while talking about having a dingleberry removed.

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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2009, 04:59:46 PM »
I hate to sound like a broken record, but these topics are all about context and if/when these issues are taken to the extreme.

HOing is not inherently "wrong".  But wholesale jousting doesn't really make for all that great of a gaming experience either.  The real question is what was the context of the HO?  Because sometimes it is the best response for the situation, but not 100% of the time.  Three vs one, and the one gets HOed down, one of those three deserve to get some grief.  That's just flat out poor for the guy with that much of an advantage to be unable to manage anything better than a HO shot. 

I doubt many people are thrilled to spend 7-8 minutes flying to a fight so the first plane they see can fly straight at them with the trigger mashed down.  Sure, that player can do that, but I can also shine a light on it by use of the radio.  See?  That works both ways.  You can silence my radio use, about as well as I can change your tactics....At least a first glance, but being that AH has a social side, you'll either have to address or ignore it :)  The third option I guess is this merry-go-round which is complaining about the complainers  :rolleyes:

I once had a fight where HiTech and I HOed each other down (he "won" by the way, because he got my pilot and I only got his wing).  What was the context?  Well, it wasn't flying straight at each other from 5k separation, with triggers held down from 1.5k distance.  He came in on my 6 as I was finishing another plane, and after a quick succession of maneuvers we ended up coming out of opposing turns nose to nose inside of 300 yards separation.  (And the result was probably karma since I vulched him about 10 minutes before that :)

I used HO as an example, but it goes for pretty much any of these topics.  A good general rule is that anything taken to the extreme is probably bad for overall gameplay...Including the guys who make it sound like HO/pick/E tactics are taboo 100% of the time, and the guys who say "eff everyone its my $15".

Have to leave it at that for now...

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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2009, 05:02:46 PM »
Well said Murdr, balance is the key. 

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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #83 on: February 03, 2009, 05:04:43 PM »
Boner if there wasn't an issue we never would have seen ENY, split up arenas, or a field-ordered base capture system, now would we?

Please make your answer specific to the question.

I did read the OPs question, and determined it to contain a well deserved level of sarcasm that was aimed at the vocal minority that incessently trys to dictate "how the game SHOULD be played".

So, I don't think the OP had a question, instead I think he was making a statement. And so was I.
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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #84 on: February 03, 2009, 05:07:23 PM »
murdr has it correctly.  now back to the game.
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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #85 on: February 03, 2009, 05:14:21 PM »
Spot on Murdr. :aok
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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #86 on: February 03, 2009, 05:19:16 PM »
1ST things 1st.......IT's your money, play however you wanna play, hope fully you;ll get a grin or two. 2nd- care even less what kinda pilot folks think you are,. does it matter?........and 3rdly......grab as much alt as possible, come screaming down on some unsuspecting poor bastage.....blast him to smithereeens....climb back up.....and laugh your posterior off.....thats how I have fun.... and it IS proper.  :rock
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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #87 on: February 03, 2009, 05:19:26 PM »
murdr has it correctly.  now back to the game.

I agree, but with the amount of people that are NOW playing the game, the courtesys and honorable flying days of yore I'm afraid are gone , never to return.

You tend to see a "mob" mentality that has changed the game.

What can be done about it?

Unfortunatly, probably nothing.

Alot of the players are going for the "kill" and they don't seem to care how they get it (camping etc.).

They don't care about getting into a good fight. Its the last thing they want.

How do you change that type of thinking with such a large crowd of people?

So barring some type of radical change , I will continue playing the game the way it is, putting up with behaviors that I don,t care for, because this is still a really great game to play despite its very minor shortcomings.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 05:21:11 PM by 1Boner »
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"So umm.... just to make sure I have this right.  What you are asking is for the bombers carrying bombs, to stop dropping bombs on the bombs, so the bombers can carry bombs to bomb things with?"  AKP

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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #88 on: February 03, 2009, 05:22:16 PM »
Damn Murdr...you gonna get banned if you continue to play the logic and fact cards!!!

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Re: Correct way to play AH2?
« Reply #89 on: February 03, 2009, 05:26:04 PM »
1ST things 1st.......IT's your money, play however you wanna play, hope fully you;ll get a grin or two. 2nd- care even less what kinda pilot folks think you are,. does it matter?........and 3rdly......grab as much alt as possible, come screaming down on some unsuspecting poor bastage.....blast him to smithereeens....climb back up.....and laugh your posterior off.....thats how I have fun.... and it IS proper.  :rock

You don't seem to get it... :rolleyes:

If most of 'em would simply do that, most of the complaints would end. As it is, so many capture monkeys spend their game time hiding in the tall grass, wait for a chance to "accomplish" something without a fight. Hell, as often as not, I'm gonna salute a guy just for TRYIN' to fight...all too many won't even bother.  :frown:

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