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Offline oakranger

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Hs 129
« on: February 09, 2009, 10:25:19 AM »
OOO, this is a nice addition for LW early and mid war. 

General characteristics

Crew: one, pilot
Length: 9.75 m (32 ft)
Wingspan: 14.2m (46 ft 7 in)
Height: 3.25 m (10 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 28.9 m² (312 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,060 kg (8,932 lb)
Loaded weight: 5,110 kg (11,242 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Gnome-Rhône 14M 14-cylinder radial engine, 522 kW (700 hp) each
Performance

Maximum speed: 408 km/h (253 mph)
Range: 880 km (546 mi)
Service ceiling 9,000 m (29,525 ft)
Rate of climb: 7.083 m/s (1,394 ft/min)
Armament


(B-1) 2 × 7.92 mm MG 17 machine guns
2 × 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons
up to 8 × 50 kg (110 lb) fragmentation bombs or a 30 mm MK 101 armor piercing gun externally
(B-2) as B1, but MG 17 replaced by 13 mm MG 131 machine gun
Bordkanone series, BK 3.7 (37 mm), or BK 7.5 (75 mm), anti-tank gun in under-fuselage pod
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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 11:31:20 AM »
10,000lbs/1400hp is very slow.  Would this be a better choice than a Stuka?
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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 01:45:06 PM »
Yea, and can come with a 37 mm or 75 mm
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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2009, 01:48:55 PM »
Yea, and can come with a 37 mm or 75 mm

Only 25 Hs 129 were rebuilt to carry the 75mm and pilots found it very difficult to fly & fight with such huge cannon on such a small, underpowered plane.
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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2009, 02:34:14 PM »
Only 25 Hs 129 were rebuilt to carry the 75mm and pilots found it very difficult to fly & fight with such huge cannon on such a small, underpowered plane.

Very difficult to fly is an understatement, it was barely able to generate enough speed and lift to fly due to the weight of the 75mm cannon.

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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2009, 02:46:12 PM »
I would say no this for addition to the inventory.  I had never even heard of this bird before, so ever curious about WWII stuff me found this picture...
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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2009, 03:14:30 PM »
     It would be interesting to see how sunglare affected the gunsight.  You KNOW
a cockpit is small when they have to mount the sight forward of the windscreen  :lol
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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2009, 06:19:08 PM »
Only 25 Hs 129 were rebuilt to carry the 75mm and pilots found it very difficult to fly & fight with such huge cannon on such a small, underpowered plane.

What was i thinking?  OK, take out the the Bordkanone series. 
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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2009, 07:54:01 PM »
     It would be interesting to see how sunglare affected the gunsight.  You KNOW
a cockpit is small when they have to mount the sight forward of the windscreen  :lol

Other dials were mounted on the inner faces of the engine nacelles. The pilot face was LITERALLY right against the glass.

The plane was a flop. They used it as a test bed for bigger guns, to be sure, but it was so underpowered it could barely fly high enough to attack ground vehicles. It was a deathtrap much of the time, being so slow that many returned to their field shot to tattered pieces. Without a giant weighty, drag-inducing, gun under the centerline, the armament was very light.

The Ju87G would be a far more effective and flight-worthy anti-tank ride.

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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2009, 08:53:38 PM »
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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2009, 10:06:22 PM »
WHY they didn't just shift the seat back 2 feet, I'll never know!

They MADE it, they could have MADE it with a bit more room, doncha think? One of the other planes was just as bad, but I can't recall which one. Maybe one of the rocket planes.

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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2009, 10:11:15 PM »
Actually it already has more room. That's a HS 129B
The A series was rejected by the Luftwaffe not only because of the much weaker engines (2x 465 HP) but also because of the even worse cockpit. the B had a redesigned, slightly bigger cockpit with "enlarged" windows ;)
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Re: Hs 129
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2009, 10:22:17 PM »
HOLY BISCOTS.  That is just as bad, if not, worst then the P-38. 
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