Coming soon to a Cop near you. License Plate Scanner

[Obie303]

Cap, be careful about recording devices.  If you record somebody's voice without their permission it is considered an illegal wire tap in Massachusetts.  Here is the website that contains the NJ laws.  I suggest you look up your state laws regarding this matter.  http://www.ncsl.org/programs/lis/cip/surveillance.htm

Sluggish, I had a lot of fun when I was a kid too.  There's nothing wrong with that.  And my response to me not having anything to hide, it was my answer.  It may be an old one and you don't have to agree, but I call them as I see it. 

To make it real simple, a person (any person) works hard in his/her life to build a good reputation.  That can be in the work force or in their personal lives.  It sometimes takes a lifetime to build that reputation.  But do one thing wrong and that reputation can be destroyed.  I see this basic philosphy as a guideline in my life.  I'm a no-nonsene type of man.  Some may call it being a "boy scout", but in hindsight, I guess I've just grown up as my father would say to me. 

Making a choice on what's ethical and right will always be the choice of the person.  That's what make's this country great.  We still have that right to choose and it's not against the law.

[CAP1]

You missed my point completely.  Completely.  If something catches an LEO's eye, whatever it may be, ESPECIALLY out of state plates on a back gravel road at 1am in the morning (I forgot the 1am thing in my previous post, my bad) in meth haven USA, this LEO is going to run your plates.  If I pull up behind you and I see you twitching, not paying attention (conatantly looking somewhere else than dead ahead), constantly adjusting your mirror, looking down at your seat or into your backseat, I am going to run your plates.  I run plates on "questionable" out of state plates as often as I can and like I said if Gpa and Gma are putzin' down the highway at 55mph and they have FL plates... the odds of them being snowbirds are quite high.  The ones as of late, or so I am told, are the 1980's model cars with "Jesus is Lord" and other such omnious religious stickers on them.  Those have been the shuttle of choice for meth runners in NW Iowa. 

This is not an abuse, it is called patrolling.  No one's "rights" are invaded if an LEO runs your plates.  How do you think a good chunk of those people with warrants out on them get apprehended???  Some of you need to remove the tinfoil hat and veg out a bit.  We're talking about checking your plates, not pulling you over, asking for "das papiers", and beating you for looking crossed eyed at the officer or not wearing your "Juden" armband.  Lighten up, Francis.       

Oh, and having a voice recorder and video in your own car not a bad idea.  It will help you vs others in civil liabilities.  Just keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of LEO's are mic'ed up and on video all the time when dealing with the public so if you are doing so because your tinfoil hat is too tight it isnt going to help you one bit vs an LEO.    

i well may have missed your point, and i want you to understand, that i mean absolutley no disrespect whatsoever in the things i say.
the gravel road, and 1am thing does change things a bit. actually in those circumstances, i'd almost think you'd run any tag, unless it was on a car that you recognized.
 
 but now you mention about sitting at a traffic light, and doing anything other than staring straight ahead. the guy that sits and stares straight ahead, is the accident waiting to happen. like i said.....i know what's going on all around me all the time. that requires me to be turning my head, checking my mirrors, and if i'm in my cargo van, moving a bit in the seat to help lok into the blind spots.  again, the guy driving, that is just staring straight ahead, is the accident waiting to happen, as he most likely has no clue what's about to hit him.

 here in nj(i think) it's mostly tinted benzes, bmw, or rice burners, that they seem to catch the drug runners in. most common(used to be anyway) are florida or ny plates.

 as for running plates.......so far no ones rights are.......i was referencing what's coming. remember when they said ezpass would never be used for anything other than paying tolls? well, again, here in jersey(and i would assume other places as well) there's been speeding tickets mailed out. they timed them from tollbooth to tollbooth. granted they were speeding, but in todays conditions, you take your life in your hands if you're on the highway only doing the speedlimit.

 as for my recorders......i know most officers are. the locals in my area aren't yet. so that leaves it my word against his. 99% of the people out there will take the word of the officer over anyone else. the video and voice are impartial witnesses. and yes, it will help with any possible altercations with other motorists too.

 my tinfoil hat fits me juuuust fine BTW.

here's one to ponder. i came home last night about 11:30pm. the 3 mile stretch of rt 30 that i drive had close to a dozen officers sitting in parking lots. it goes through lawnside, magnolia, somerdale, stratford, and laurel springs. 12 police officers. 3 miles. sitting there. light traffic that time of night. why? all of these towns, with the exception of laurel springs, has "problem" areas, where there's always something going on. so why are these guys sitting out near the road, rather than "protecting and serving" those areas, which also contain good families?
 i've asked officers that i know, and never get a straight answer.....except from one, that did say that the town he used to patrol in does indeed have quotas.

 anyway, those of you that are truly trying to make things better for the rest of us(you sound much more professional than our other pd friend) i <<S>> you. it's a job that i could never do.

[CAP1]

Cap, be careful about recording devices.  If you record somebody's voice without their permission it is considered an illegal wire tap in Massachusetts.  Here is the website that contains the NJ laws.  I suggest you look up your state laws regarding this matter.  http://www.ncsl.org/programs/lis/cip/surveillance.htm

Sluggish, I had a lot of fun when I was a kid too.  There's nothing wrong with that.  And my response to me not having anything to hide, it was my answer.  It may be an old one and you don't have to agree, but I call them as I see it. 

To make it real simple, a person (any person) works hard in his/her life to build a good reputation.  That can be in the work force or in their personal lives.  It sometimes takes a lifetime to build that reputation.  But do one thing wrong and that reputation can be destroyed.  I see this basic philosphy as a guideline in my life.  I'm a no-nonsene type of man.  Some may call it being a "boy scout", but in hindsight, I guess I've just grown up as my father would say to me. 

Making a choice on what's ethical and right will always be the choice of the person.  That's what make's this country great.  We still have that right to choose and it's not against the law.

thanks dude. i just checked. i thought nj was a 1 party state, and it is.
 
 i only am doing this to protect myself. like you said.....i have a good rep in my area. i want it to stay that way, and if this is what i have to do to keep it good, then so be it. i hate the fact that i need to spend this money. it would go better to getting my race car ready for the season.

<<S>>

[Rich46yo]

Instead, officers are carrying a hi-cap autoloader pistol w/ appx 45-50 rounds on person (hit ratios have plummeted, btw), an Asp (collaspable metal baton), OC spray, a tazer, a knife (for cutting people out of a seatbelt   ), 2 sets of handcuffs, a ballistic vest, a radio, enough trainging to take on 10 hoodlums in a fist fight, and the mentality of a drill instructor speaking to Gma (just be polite and say "Sir/Ma'am while being staunch and firm).  Oh, did I mention the AR15 in the squad car that is reached for far too often?  Our LEO force has become far too military in operation, imo.  However, I undestand why and it a sad thing.

Thats funny. Ive been doing this in a blood drenched city for 25 years and I never saw an M-16 out once. But it sounded good Loon. Your penalty is one year without watching the movie "HEAT".

Cap1 when you start saying the exact same things time after time after time. When you end up posting to yourself speaking the same silly nonsense thread after thread after thread. This one is another case in point. It was a thread about License plate scanners and you turned it into ANOTHER of your fearful cop rants, just like you did the 30 preceding. Or was it 50?

What ARE you so afraid of that leaves you feeling like you have to get the entire community roiled up against their POs in every thread you can? What makes you tick dude? It must be Internet anonymity thats part of it. Your way to old to still be in that, "I wanna be a cop" stage.

i <<S>> you. it's a job that i could never do.

No. You couldn't Cap. You have it in your head that the way somebody dresses or the job they do is an automatic reflection of their character. Guys like you, with a chip on their shoulder and always afraid, dont last long on this job. People that say stuff like, "but I also know some good cops", tend to not stop there. Before you know it it becomes, "but I also know some good blacks" and on and on. When you start classifying people like that your going to end up with a problem and this is no job for someone afraid of their shadow.

it's why i have a voice recorder in my car now, and will have video very soon.

You've been saying that since I joined Aces High. My guess is you have neither, will have neither, but will be saying the same thing 2 years from now as well.

[SmokinLoon]

Thats funny. Ive been doing this in a blood drenched city for 25 years and I never saw an M-16 out once. But it sounded good Loon. Your penalty is one year without watching the movie "HEAT".

LOL.  Dont get me wrong, I didnt mean to make it sound as if the deputies and police were doing traffic stops with an AR15 slung over their shoulder.  What I meant was that far too often LEO's are reaching for it for reasons that 20-30 years ago they wouldnt bat en eye at.  Here out on the prairie where back up is 30 minutes or more away on some nights, there are some deputies and troopers that dont hesitate to reach for their AR15 especially if a "weapon" has been declared during the 911 call.  Once on scene and a true sitrep can be made, the AR15 goes back into the trunk or cab rack.  Some nights there are 2 deputies for 942 square miles and a single state trooper for backup #3.  Not much help at all.  FWIW, up until 1999, the deputies had hand-me-down M14's.   

btw... the only scene I've watched in "Heat" was the meeting of Al and Robert in a resturant.  I've seen stills of the street fight, but have yet to watch it.  Matter of fact, I'll go watch it on YT right now....   

[CAP1]

Thats funny. Ive been doing this in a blood drenched city for 25 years and I never saw an M-16 out once. But it sounded good Loon. Your penalty is one year without watching the movie "HEAT".wildwood nj, and i think atlantic city carry assualt type rifles mounted in their trunks. at least they used to. saw them when i used to work for a radio installation company. htat was 15 years ago. that may have changed since then.

Cap1 when you start saying the exact same things time after time after time. When you end up posting to yourself speaking the same silly nonsense thread after thread after thread. This one is another case in point. It was a thread about License plate scanners and you turned it into ANOTHER of your fearful cop rants, just like you did the 30 preceding. Or was it 50?it's not even been 30, but think whatcha want. i'm curious though....what do you mean "posting to yourself"?
 it still is about license plate scanners. i simply am makingt a point of how they WILL be abused. you(whether or not you'll admit it) know this as well as i do.

What ARE you so afraid of that leaves you feeling like you have to get the entire community roiled up against their POs in every thread you can?i have nothing to fear. clean record, good rep. i see how systems work though. good cops will never abuse anything. bad cops will. there's plenty of both. What makes you tick dude? It must be Internet anonymity that's part of it.nope. if we were all sitting in the same room having this conversation, I'd say the exact same things i am now. in fact, i was just talking to a cherry hill officer the other day about this thread. Your way to old to still be in that, "I wanna be a cop" stage. No. You couldn't Cap. You have it in your head that the way somebody dresses or the job they do is an automatic reflection of their character.no, the way someone dresses has nothing to do with how they do their job. BUT....the way people DO their jobs is a HUGE reflection on their character. Guys like you, with a chip on their shoulder and always afraid, don't last long on this job.again, not afraid of anything I'm good friends with they guy that used to be the chief of police in stratford. knew him since he was a patrolman. i can;t tell you the number of times that i heard stories of hoe he'd arrest someone....for beating their wife, or causing a pretty bad accident, or drunk driving, only to have them released. i can't tell you the number for times I've heard him talking about the person he's arrested over a half dozen times, always for the same thing. i hear this from all of my pd friends. THAT is what would be my limiting factor should i have become a cop. People that say stuff like, "but I also know some good cops", tend to not stop there. Before you know it it becomes, "but I also know some good blacks" and on and on.actually, all the cops i know ARE good cops. When you start classifying people like that your going to end up with a problem and this is no job for someone afraid of their shadow.i classify things as i seem them. no unjustified fears, whatsoever, although your statement sounds a bit racist/.
 

You've been saying that since I joined Aces High. My guess is you have neither, will have neither, but will be saying the same thing 2 years from now as well.i have neither what?

but now, if ya wanna talk about chips on our shoulders, the more you talk of your job in here, the more you sound like you've got a pretty big one on yours. rather than sound like that, you could try to educate people on these things.

[Vulcan]

It's a pity you guys don't watch a bit more tv from abroad. If you'd watched the UK cop shows you'd note that they are kept so busy with stolen vehicles picked up by the plate scanner they have little time for anything else.