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Offline Oldman731

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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #135 on: February 24, 2009, 10:12:41 PM »
The information is there for those who wish to find it.

Even after a very long time playing aviation games - and a fair amount of time playing Aces High - I find it difficult to locate useful information on the game.  Even AirWarrior had a manual that took you from hanger to sky in a few pages.  It shouldn't be that hard to do a "Quick Start" guide for this game.  There's really quite a lot to absorb here before you can do even the simplest thing - for example, the initial nightmare of figuring out how to set up your joystick and keyboard.  Finding the online help, much less wading through it and making sense out of it, could be a lot easier.  The development history of AH - started by an expert, for other experts - shows through in the amount of background knowledge the game implicitly expects from participants.

On the other hand:  AirWarrior had a very prominent warning, right at the beginning of its manual, that informed the player he was expected already to be familiar with the basics of a flight simulator.  Wouldn't hurt to have something like that here, either.

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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #136 on: February 24, 2009, 11:21:40 PM »
iam not a uber noob i played for about a year 2 years ago but i was a first time flight sim first time ah guy i think something when you first start up to give you the basics would be nice like taking off for instance. the quality of fights wont change i quess in the end to each his own if you want to fly in the horde all the time so be it i do but i also get away from the horde its not going to change as i recall the is the da for all you.
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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #137 on: February 24, 2009, 11:28:05 PM »
iam not uh uber noob ah played fo' about uh year 2 years ago but ah wuz uh first tyme flight sim first tyme ah guy ah th'o't sumfin when ya first start up ta give ya da basics would be nice like taking off fo' instance. da quality o' fights wont change ah quess in da end ta each his own if ya wants ta fly in da horde all da tyme so be it ah do but ah also git away from da horde its not going ta change as ah recall da iz da da fo' all ya. what 'chew trippin foo' 


In case others like me had a tough time understanding what you posted, I put it through the Ebonics translator so we can understand what you wrote.


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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #138 on: February 25, 2009, 12:27:26 AM »

I guess for me, while avoiding dying is no more the point of playing AH2 than avoiding losing was the point of playing Little League baseball, still, you hate to lose. You should hate to lose or you're not committed enough to the game. It's a matter of balance. If losing ruins your whole day, or incites you to cheat or to play dirty so you never learn how to win clean, or if you can't stand to risk losing in order to get a shot at winning, you hate it too much. And if you never lost it would be boring and pointless... but still... you hate to lose.

It's one of those paradoxes of the human spirit, I guess.
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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #139 on: February 25, 2009, 12:29:08 AM »
iam not a uber noob i played for about a year 2 years ago but i was a first time flight sim first time ah guy i think something when you first start up to give you the basics would be nice like taking off for instance. the quality of fights wont change i quess in the end to each his own if you want to fly in the horde all the time so be it i do but i also get away from the horde its not going to change as i recall the is the da for all you.
Was it also the first time you were exposed to the English language?

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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #140 on: February 25, 2009, 12:51:33 AM »
iam not a uber noob i played for about a year 2 years ago, But i was a first time flight sim guy and a first time AH2 player at one point. i think something when you first start up to give you the basics would be nice, like taking off for instance. The quality of fights wont change. i quess in the end to each his own if you want to fly in the horde all the time so be it i do but i also get away from the horde its not going to change as i recall there is the DA for all you.

to any one who made fun of the first post the first sentence was screwed up doesn't mean the rest was get lives d-bags :D
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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #141 on: February 25, 2009, 12:54:27 AM »
You mean get a life, sweetheartbags.

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Capitalization helps also in getting your point across.  At least you got the paragraph part half right.

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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #142 on: February 25, 2009, 01:02:58 AM »
Dude when I call you a d-bag i dont have to make it perfect. The point got across. Who made you the english writing police of the forum anyway.
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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #143 on: February 25, 2009, 02:50:06 AM »
I did.
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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #144 on: February 25, 2009, 03:10:24 AM »
Sadly, there are better fights on the forums than in the skies of AH lately.  :(
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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #145 on: February 25, 2009, 03:20:05 AM »
Kilo is working on his flying and he doesnt post much. Like him I didnt bother to edit things or worry about punctuation when I started posting and I agree with him it isnt that hard to figure out what he means. Im sure also you are poking fun at him for the entertainment so why are you doing that?  :confused:
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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #146 on: February 25, 2009, 03:29:50 AM »
When I first joined this game, it was my first ever online flight sim - so I took the time to find out how things worked etc. I've played a lot of other sims, so maybe that helped, but I've never had trouble finding training partners here.

Finding various pages here isnt the most instinctual, but once you get used to it, its easy enough (thank heavens you can save favourites). On the ethos of Guppy, thats what I like to do, go find a fight, win or lose (I mostly lose obvoiusly) and get a nice shiney plane after it.

Attached a film of me vs a few, this is not a slam on them, I put myself there, and had a massive amount of fun on this sortie.

http://www.4shared.com/dir/12693122/cf45463d/sharing.html

Its the one marked 1 v 8 spit 9 - first 6 mins can be ignored, as thats just me flying to the fight. That was a quite intense (for me) fight, and thoroughly enjoyable.

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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #147 on: February 25, 2009, 05:24:21 AM »
I find it is not the questions of "Hey my mouse pointer wont move, what gives?" that draws the ire of the majority of "vets".  It's the "How do I start this GV...how come it wont move... how do I put my gear down... ect...ect...ect ?" do.
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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #148 on: February 25, 2009, 05:55:20 AM »
You don't see any relation to lack of knowledge and lack of readily available information?

I found it funny, the "but even tho they are tuned" section.  Tuning the radio and using it is probably the largest reason that newer players don't ask for help  ;)Or you can do what I did and use a crawler program that went through the entire help site and turned it into a PDF.  That doesn't retract from the point that it should already be available, without the potential user having to do it themselves.
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Re: Perceptions of fight quality
« Reply #149 on: February 25, 2009, 06:14:14 AM »
The best fights occur between 3 and 6 am eastern. How I know this is because its about the time I get off work over here in Korea. Its about 90 people in a arena going at it and usally theres 1 good furball. Tonight it was very interesting getting ganged by muppets  :D but Grizz stayed out this one time and let me and Agent360 go at it, <S> Agent probably my best fight yet, even though your G14 ended up ripping my LA7 in half :cry  :D  :salute
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