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Attempted Gun Club closure
« on: February 27, 2009, 10:25:09 AM »
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 10:50:46 AM »
Quote from: Terror on February 27, 2009, 10:25:09 AM
From this article "http://www.bnd.com/news/local/story/651156.html"

St Clair County is trying to close the "Caseyville Rifle and Pistol Club", but has lost twice and been ordered to pay ~$80 in legal fees to the Gun Club.  Now it seems they are going to try to use "eminent domain" laws (again) to close the club.  Is anyone here familiar with the Illinois Eminent Domain laws that would explain how a county could justify using eminent domain to close a modern up-to-date Gun Club that has been determined by a judge not to cause a public or tranportation danger?

It just seems strange that a county would use so much time and money to close a club like this.  Other than "anti-gun" reasons, why would a county government be so determined to close the club?

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THEY'll say that it's for the benefit of the greater portion of the community. eminent domain laws are really scary, as there's so much grey area for them to maneuver around with.
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 10:55:23 AM »
I saw nothing in the article indicating that Scott AFB has ever had an aircraft struck by gunfire from the ground. That being the case, this sure seems to be politically motivated, and not an issue of aircraft safety.

Maybe HTC should give the judge a free hour in an Ostie and let him see if he can actually hit an airplane on purpose.
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 12:22:21 PM »
 :rofl

Well, the issue with Eminent Domain laws is that the county can make up anuthing to enfore it.  The the only way i know to get around it, if they have a large track land, is put some of that in a conservation essment.  With that, it should protect the land from any development outside of the ownership.   
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2009, 12:23:32 PM »
ask the people of Bensenville Il, Daley pulled that on them so he could make Ohare airport larger
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 01:26:40 PM »
sounds to me like the owner, or one of the club members pissed off the wrong person.

it it were actually a safet hazard to the air force, i think they'd have already been on this.......they don't need the likes of a county lawyer to handle their problems.

 the club should counter-sue(i hate saying that too) and include all of their legal fees, and any fees whatsoever that are related to this issue. bet the county backs off then.
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2009, 01:27:37 PM »
Quote from: Hungry on February 27, 2009, 12:23:32 PM
ask the people of Bensenville Il, Daley pulled that on them so he could make Ohare airport larger

didn't daley just sneak bulldozers into meigs field and tear it up at night too? illegally/?
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2009, 01:32:58 PM »
Its a two-bit lawyer trying to make a name for himself and failing miserably.
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2009, 01:35:30 PM »
Quote from: CAP1 on February 27, 2009, 01:26:40 PM
sounds to me like the owner, or one of the club members pissed off the wrong person.

it it were actually a safet hazard to the air force, i think they'd have already been on this.......they don't need the likes of a county lawyer to handle their problems.

 the club should counter-sue(i hate saying that too) and include all of their legal fees, and any fees whatsoever that are related to this issue. bet the county backs off then.
CAP1 makes a good point, if the gun club had actually gotten crossways with the Air Force, they wouldn't be dealing with some piss-ant county lawyer, but with the Federal government.
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2009, 02:08:42 PM »
Quote from: CAP1 on February 27, 2009, 01:26:40 PM
the club should counter-sue(i hate saying that too) and include all of their legal fees, and any fees whatsoever that are related to this issue. bet the county backs off then.

The club did get legal fees.  Around $80K ...  From this http://www.bnd.com/news/local/story/660569.html article.  Of course the county is appealing that decision.

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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2009, 03:02:56 PM »
Quote from: Terror on February 27, 2009, 02:08:42 PM
The club did get legal fees.  Around $80K ...  From this http://www.bnd.com/news/local/story/660569.html article.  Of course the county is appealing that decision.

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Ok, that makes more sense. In your original post it said $80. No lawyer's gonna lift a finger for $80.
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2009, 04:53:04 PM »
They should expand and put a Strip Club next door....



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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2009, 05:27:28 PM »
Another reason why Illinois is such a screwed up state


Im so glad to be getting out of here in several months
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2009, 05:44:03 PM »
Quote from: Meatwad on February 27, 2009, 05:27:28 PM
Another reason why Illinois is such a screwed up state


Im so glad to be getting out of here in several months

come to the peoples free republik of new jersey comrade. it's good here.  :noid :noid
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Re: Attempted Gun Club closure
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2009, 05:58:09 PM »
Quote from: CAP1 on February 27, 2009, 05:44:03 PM
come to the peoples free republik of new jersey comrade. it's good here.  :noid :noid

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