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Offline Anaxogoras

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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2009, 10:30:34 AM »
Hmmmm...  I wonder how many F-22s we could have built if we hadn't spent all that money....  Sorry skuzzy! :devil

$339 million for an F-22 http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2006/060227-f-22-price.htm

$3,000,000,000,000 / 339,000,000 = ~8849.6

Or 8850 F-22s.

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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2009, 11:25:12 AM »
They need the cross country practice since they shut everything down in 1991, and we need the intercept practice since we've been investigating C152s penetrating the ADIZ. Guys need a challenge sometimes.


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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2009, 12:18:44 PM »
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Russia announced it would give Lebanon 10 MiG-29s as a gift, adding that the aircraft were not new and each warplane had a different degree of wear. Russia promised to modernize the jets "to normal export standards" before delivery.

i wonder if I write Putin if I can get a "gift" ...just 1 of em. even if it can't fly it would be cool to say " I own a MIG 29!" it would take up the whole driveway BUT i could park my bike under its wings  :D

The downside is my wife probably wouldn't be able to get her kia sportage into hte garage with it sitting in the driveway. My neighbor on that side would probably like it tho  :aok
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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2009, 12:57:30 PM »

And of course we're going to shut down the F-22 line after building less than half of the number we really need (in my opinion)...


I have a funny feeling military spending is going to be one of the big casualties of the current economic crisis. Bad for the US, but even worse for the sit-on-the-fence European 'allies' quite happy to let the US, along with Canada, Australia and Britain, to bear the brunt of any dirty work needing done.

Of course, I'm sure BAE would be more than willing to sell you some of their much cheaper Typhoons. Just don't ask for any of the source code. Its secret and Yanks can't keep secrets... ;)

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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2009, 03:56:32 PM »
I have a funny feeling military spending is going to be one of the big casualties of the current economic crisis.

Before the economic crisis hit, candidate Obama was promising to cut military spending by 25%, unilaterally cut our nuclear deterrent force, take our strategic forces off of "the highest alert", and cancel any development projects using "unproven" technology (basically anything that hadn't been done before).  That was before the nearly $800 billion barrel of pork was even considered.

Now it's his responsibility and they're not just words he's saying to a camera, so it's anyone's guess what he'll really do.  A 25% defense cut in any circumstances (war, peace, or "cold war") would immediately change the balance of power in the world, and you can bet that the realities of what our military really does have been briefed to him extensively in the last couple of months.  Again, who knows what he'll do but we know what he promised, and I don't know anyone in the military business who thinks what he said he would do is coincident with a rational approach to national security.


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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2009, 04:22:13 PM »
Yes, the Russkies are back, they've been sniffing around the British Isles a lot lately. I heard that last year they got as close as twenty miles to the British coast in a 'Blackjack' bomber. Despite what you think, they get useful military info by flying bombers close to the line. They check out intercept times and see how long the interceptors can stay. They keep RAF Tornadoes busy by flying down past Scotland. But once they get off the Irish coast, the RAF has to break off for fuel because they're not allowed cross our airspace. Ireland has no intercept capability, so they go unmolested as close as they like to the Irish coast. We haven't had a fighter since the last Spitfire was retired. :o So they've pretty much worked out that that's a bit of blind spot for the RAF.

Their carrier groups sail down the west coast as well. Recently while carrying out underway replenishment of fuel for the carrier. Something went wrong and tons of fuel were dumped in the sea. True to form the Russians denied it was them. Luckily it didn't hit land in the end.  

It's all part of the posturing they've started again in recent years.

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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2009, 04:44:23 PM »
Yep blown out of proportion. During the cold war this was a weekly occurance.

In the last couple of years the Bear has been exercising it's military muscle, and this is happening again much more frequently than most people realize. It's nothing new, we have been intercepting them for decades.

Has nothing to do with Obamamessiah being in Ottawa.

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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2009, 05:00:09 PM »
Yes, the Russkies are back.
Once again it proves that no matter what  system has formidable military power, it will always be evil.
Ireland is in no immediate danger, there's nothing that worth conquering.
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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2009, 05:07:39 PM »
It is fairly simple, we are training a next generation air combat force, with the ability to patrol every sector of this planet.
Whos ships, aircraft and installations will all be manned, but not by people in the same general area.

Imagine a sight like the aces high con, only military and every single computer hooked upto its own plane/drone/aircraft/tank.


its coming...


Drones rock, they are small.. fast and can pull max g's and you will never black out. best of all, the more made the cheaper they become to product, the cheaper they are to produce the more expandable they become.


When it comes to a russian flying a cloned b-29 off my coast, that's fine, but the russians better be very afraid of our stealth unmanned drones flying at mach 3 able to pull 12+g's and carrying two aim9-x or amramm missiles.
And no, i am not talkin' about the p.o.s. prop driven drones you all know and love.


And if anyone still has doubts, just remember we are the only air force in the world who has machines that can take off, fly,refuel drop ords, refuel again and fly home. All without anyone ever touching a thing, with computers who can visualy identify what make / model / country of a target, can recognise a russian star from a NATO one, for christ sake in the 80's we made a self guided missiles that can drop bombs on target's while on its WAY to its OWN target!

The russians and chinese developed some "so called" super fast stealth torpedo, only to find out our military has been developing the same thing sence the 70's, now the real kicker is the ruskins and pongs of this world could only reach a speed of around 400 knots, all the while in the 80's and on the americans and british have WORKING version's reaching mach 2.5+ UNDER WATER.

Dont even get me started on the rail gun cannons we have on dang near ever satellite, or the ion cannons, or the lasers cutting your nukes in half, of the invisible microwaves that will cook the million of troops you try to land here.

Kickin' your bellybutton in space, kickin' your bellybutton in the air, kickin' your bellybutton on the ground, ,kickin' your bellybutton under it all.

Yeah com'on ivan, show us what you got. :rock
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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2009, 05:16:29 PM »
Once again it proves that no matter what  system has formidable military power, it will always be evil.
Ireland is in no immediate danger, there's nothing that worth conquering.
Romans didn't bother, neither will "Russkies"

Tell that to the English, who went to a lot of trouble to conquer and hold onto us. Not to mention the fact they still keep a quarter of the island of Ireland for themselves.

No need to be insulting either :mad:

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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2009, 05:25:04 PM »
The russians are coming.


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When it comes to a russian flying a cloned b-29 off my coast, that's fine, but the russians better be very afraid of our stealth unmanned drones flying at mach 3 able to pull 12+g's and carrying two aim9-x or amramm missiles.


So this brings up a question that's had me think... Does a prop planes engine give off enough heat for a A2A heatseaking (i.e. aim-9x) to lock on to? Or would it be up to the Radar Guided Missiles?
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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2009, 05:48:38 PM »
 :rofl They're not cloned B29s, the Bears are turboprops, plenty of heat signature there. The Blackjacks are jets like a big B1. I love BaDkaRmA158Th's spin on things. Yo, kick bellybutton boy :aok

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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2009, 06:09:50 PM »

Imagine a sight like the aces high con, only military and every single computer hooked upto its own plane/drone/aircraft/tank.


Oh man, the whines the Russians will be putting up on 200 about the HOing, picking and Vulching.
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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2009, 06:28:11 PM »

Yeah com'on ivan, show us what you got. :rock

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Re: Russian Bombers intercepted....
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2009, 06:31:38 PM »
Let me just say that underestimating or thinking lesser of anyone based on race creed or color is a huge mistake.

never underestimate another human being, each and ever action taken should be watched and remembered, consider someone walking upto you, and poking you in the forehead, then going back into his house.

Each day, he would come out, poke you in your forehead, and go home, again..and again..and again, never saying a word, never giving a reason as to WHY.


Then one day he comes out and shoots you in the face, you are now dead.


But the people around you who saw this all happening day in and day out, only have one thing to say. "We saw this coming, was only a matter of time."

Consider each and ever russian bomber that fly's near us, a proverbial poke in the forehead.

Edit:The Johnny Five (5) human pacification robot was american made, and showed ample reason to reproduce into smaller faster stonger, version's for home infiltration and stealth missions, as shown on short Short circuit 2. :salute
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