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[The Fugitive]

you couldn't pay me enough to use an AMD system. For now, Intel is the way to go.

[TheZohan]

thats his choice.. without going to a celeron the cheapest intel starts with the 2.2ghz E2200 for 70.00 for the box with fan but would probably suggest the E5200 2.5ghz wolfsdale at 72.99 with free shipping if you went the intel route

the thing with AMD for me is this .. i already know  my upgrade path i dont have to buy a new board or memory .. for all you people with intel if you want a i7 you have to purchase a new board and memory (upwards to 500.00 to do that if not more) i can slap a Phenom II 940 on just about any AM2+ and it blow away just about anything not i7 . Intel you cant slap a i7 on your 775 boards unless its a X58 chipset

[Skuzzy]

Please refrain from using the dual-core AMD CPU's if you wish to play Aces High II. 

Aces High II is natively multi-threaded and likes dual-core CPU's, but with the bug in the AMD dual core CPU's we happen to hit, your performance will suffer dramatically.

<snip>the thing with AMD for me is this .. i already know  my upgrade path i dont have to buy a new board or memory .. for all you people with intel if you want a i7 you have to purchase a new board and memory (upwards to 500.00 to do that if not more) i can slap a Phenom II 940 on just about any AM2+ and it blow away just about anything not i7 . Intel you cant slap a i7 on your 775 boards unless its a X58 chipset

That very much depends on the application.  A quad core Intel Core 2 CPU will outperform a Phenom II in many real world applications.

[TheZohan]

is it perticular with a certain one? the brisbane core, windsor core, toliman core.

[Skuzzy]

All dual core AMD CPU's.  AMD had a fix, but they are not going to release it.  The tri-core and quad-core AMD CPU's are fine.

I would not touch a dual core AMD CPU with a ten foot pole.  Our game is not the only application who runs into the bug.

[TheZohan]

never had a issue but maybe i got lucky the 3 core tolimans are the same price as the dual core wolfdale E5200's

[Skuzzy]

Yes, but the E5200 will overclock to 3.6Ghz on air, quite easily, as it also has it multiplier unlocked.  Best kept CPU secret of all time.  I have a couple of them in various systems.  Fun little CPU to play with.

[TheZohan]

i was playing with my kuma BE and had it up to 3.2 but the stock fan is horrible  a zoliman fan would give me better cooling on air. most people are OCing it to 3.6ghz with a better fan its all tit for tat though

[Skuzzy]

At the same clock rate, the E5200 will eat any dual-core AMD CPU up.

[TheZohan]

well at stock speeds the 7750 (2.7) beats out the E5200 (2.5)
the 7750 is faster then the X2 6400 (3.1) too
remember the X2 7750 is a phenom core makes a huge difference


at OC speeds the E5200 (4ghz)  will beat the 7750 (3.1ghz) 

for some reason they only show 3.1ghz as the OC speed for the 7750 in the test.
i know lots of people hitting 3.5ghz so seems a little scewed IMHO. put another .4-.5 ghz on the 7750 and the 4ghz E5200 doesnt look that dominating.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2008/12/22/athlon-x2-7750-vs-intel-e5200-oc-review/4

but your right 1.5GHZ in overclockability isnt bad for 70.00 investment

where the 7750 is only like .8 ghz for 63.00 but still respectable