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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2009, 11:31:57 AM »
Thanks rebel but I'm fine. Worst case scenario some "things" may get wet, but I promise you that the Mrs and myself will remain dry in the upper level of our house. Our biggest concern at this point is not river flooding, but the potential for a sewer backup or power loss. We've done what we can on our end, just a matter of waiting now.

38.6 current level and predicted to 41.2 sat.
These are record levels that have never been seen, as long as measurements have been taken. Including going back to the 1897 flood.

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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2009, 11:37:26 AM »
Good to hear dude.  Standing down :)
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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2009, 04:11:25 PM »
<S> Ghosth... was watching for you among the sandbaggers on the news video - anyway, good luck to yas.  Geez that place looks cold...
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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2009, 04:58:40 PM »
You won't see me on TV Gunthr, I'm smart enough to know that I can no longer do that kind of stuff.
So I stay home and out of peoples way. No need to waste someones time having to rescue me.

Bad news is they just raised the crest another foot, to 42 feet for sure, with possible to 43 late sat, sunday.
And that peak is expected to hold for 5 days or more before we get significant relief.
Thats a lot of time and a lot of pressure.


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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2009, 06:38:13 PM »
Ghosth, just saw the news from up in the great white north,it seems the worst is yet to come!

 Cold weather is hampering things and slowing the melt,keeping the ice jams in place,it looks like they're resorting to explosives to break up the icedams.

 Hang in there and keep the jonboat ready.

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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2009, 07:38:33 PM »
Part of the Confusion Morfiend is that they are mixing up 2 rivers, just because they both in North Dakota.

Ice Jams were a serious problem in Bismark the state capitol, on the Missouri river.
They did use explosives twice to try to help break up ice jams that were causing some localised flooding.

No explosives used that I've heard of on the Red River in Fargo area.

Record set in 1997  of 39.66 has been surpassed.

Coast Guard is here, at the ready, rescuing some people in outlaying area's by airboat, and helicopter.
Fargo's City leadership is top notch, doing all they can do and then some.

Pictures can be found here for anyone interested.
http://www.ndsu.edu/fargo_geology/fldphotos2009.htm

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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2009, 06:40:32 AM »
Morning Update!
River level is 40.44 and Risin! We are officially into record setting never seen before flooding levels.

Well its been an interesting 12 hours since last night.
On the plus side our city leadership and people have not given up.
In spite of continuing series of ever worse flood crest forecasts.
They battle on, worn, tired, frazzled, but stubborn and determined to do whatever it takes to win.

We got a "code red" automated call last night at 11:30 calling for sandbaggers to come work on the dike.
This is the permanent dike that was ok for a 40 foot crest, but with the new crest to 42 or maybe up towards 43 they needed to get that stretch up to 44 feet. 

Fargo is a very Linear city, stretching for miles North and South along the river. There really is only one route that runs all the way from North to South.
University drive is one way going South from 19th ave North to 13 Ave S. And 10th street is the companion one way going North.

Well the City has shut down University and 10th St to private traffic, reserving it for sandtrucks, crews, and emergency vehicles only.
National Guard is out doing traffic and directing people. 3 shorter cross streets running East to the river have also been cordoned off.
People are being allowed to cross it at various places but not turn onto it.

Yesterday traffic was backed up so bad in places that what would normally be a 10 min commute from Fargo to Moorhead was a 2 - 4 hour bumper to bumper traffic jam. We are down to just 2 bridges across the river, the newly rebuilt Main Ave Bridge, was built to handle this kind of water.
And the Interstate 94 bridges which are barely above at this point. DOT was out working all day yesterday trying to keep I94 open and passable.
And to keep it from being a conduit for water from the river into the city. The main on ramp from Moorhead to Fargo has been closed for 2 days now.
Leaving just one other exit where you can leave Moorhead and get to Fargo.

Whew, what a mess!

6:00 AM... RED RIVER AT 40.44
Expected to crest at 41 - 42 FEET by Saturday but could potentially be as high as 43 FEET

-Overnight Dike Breech in South Fargo
An overnight dike breech in South Fargo prompted a "CODE RED" call to the neighborhood and a mandatory evacuation. Engineers deemed that the leak was NOT significant. KFGO news spoke with Police Seargeant Mark Lykken at the scene. The corps of engineers planned to shore up the leak. About 140 homes were affected. Lykken says most had already left and those that remained were prepared to leave on short notice. The evacuation was East of 4th Street South between River Road and Lindenwood Drive.  (roughly 5 blocks from our house and south)


- Fargo Police Announce Road Closures
FARGO, N.D. (March 26, 2009) – The Fargo Police Department is announcing the closure of several roads that will be used for flood truck traffic only.  The closures will begin at 6:00 a.m. Friday, March 27.  The closures are as follows:

    * University Dr. from 35th Ave. N. to 40th Ave. S.
    * 10th St. from 13th Ave. S. to 19th Ave. N.
    * NP Ave. from University Dr. to the river  (East West road (bridge to Moorhead is closed due to high water)
    * 7th Ave. N. from University Dr. to the river
    * 19th Ave. N. from University Dr. to Elm St. (Major east west road 3 miles north of us)

 The North Dakota National Guard will be assisting the Fargo Police Department at significant intersections to ensure the smooth flow of truck traffic and to block civilian traffic from using these roadways.  Cross traffic will be allowed in a controlled manner.
The Fargo Police Department is requesting the assistance of the public to ensure these critical roadways are kept open to allow flood fighting efforts to continue as rapidly as possible.

- MeritCare Fargo Hospitals Evacuating Patients After consulting with local and state emergency services, to ensure the safest possible evacuation of patients from the city, MeritCare is initiating the evacuations of hospital patients as of 8:30 p.m., Thursday, March 26.

Our Sister city of Moorhead has issued a Mandatory evacuation for section of town South of Interstate 94, and EAST of the main North South road, 8th st.

Our daughter Katie worked yesterday on her day off. (Villa Maria) helping to prepare residents to be moved out of this area.
Some went as far as 7 hours to the western side of the state. More will be evacuated today. Obviously we are proud of her dedication to those she cares for.

On the home front, we remain HIGH AND DRY, sump pump is working, water is on (although smells funny) and sewers are working. WHEW
Keeping you guys updated helps keep me from going stir crazy. Gives me something to do, a purpose, any purpose in these long days helps.

Once we do crest they are saying we could stay at over 41 foot levels for over a week. So this is going to be a LONG worrysome wait.

Once again, after carefully going over the city's evacuation plan, we are in the area they have not planned. We are where they are evacuating people to, not from. We are high and dry, and even if a dike fails should not see significant problems.
Worst case scenario for us is likely to be less than a foot of water in the street.

But as no one has ever seen water levels this high before, it remains a bit worrisome.
Again, we are high and dry, have everything we need. We just need to stay the course. We very very much appreciate all the thoughts, prayers and offers of help. If we have to clean up we'll be in touch.  Grin

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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2009, 09:56:17 AM »
Almost there. Should see your soon. Keep your chin up. Keep busy and protect important stuff.
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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2009, 10:26:26 AM »
James, 13 Ave S, and 10th St N, mines the place with the jon boat parked in the yard,  you have my number.

Sitting tight and keeping my powder dry. If your near, stop by, will put the coffee pot on.

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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2009, 10:43:51 AM »
I will be going to moorhead from what all the paperwork says. We have to check in with the local agencies when we get there. We've been told go, don't go, go, don't go, and finally go. We are now finally on the road and on the way. Hearing you are doing good and people aren't giving up is awsome! We are so anxious to get there and help out its coming out of our pores. Situations like that are horrible. I was in Florida 8 years prior and the flooding from hurricanes got to me. I had to head north. I just wish I could have gotten on the way a lot sooner. I'm very east of you and they sent people and stuff from closer by. They just couldn't decide if it would be the right thing to do or not to send us from where we are until we started packing anyway. We are determined to get there before the crest. 
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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2009, 01:09:43 PM »
Hey there Ghosth, just wanted to let you know that ur in my familys thoughts, my little ones included your family in their prayers last night.

Fingers crossed, hope it works, and good luck

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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2009, 05:07:38 PM »
Ghosth the explosives were used in Manatoba on the Red River.

 Needless to say,things will be prolonged because of the unussual cold.

 Hang in there and keep ur powder dry. :aok

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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2009, 05:31:05 PM »
Ahhhh Rgr John, havn't been following whats been happening up North.

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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2009, 05:57:22 PM »
Just remember -- its not a real emergency unless your internet connection gets compromised!







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Re: How High's the water Momma?
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2009, 06:27:05 PM »
Just saw a news story on this...good luck Ghosth.
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