Author Topic: Tracers.  (Read 3175 times)

Offline Delirium

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7276
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2009, 12:32:59 AM »
Off

I like to say I turned them off originally because I was so good, but that wasn't the case. My video card on my old computer died everytime the bullet trails were rendered, dropping my frame rate to 5. It was either learn to fly with them off, or leave AH.

That said, I find tracers off to be be better in every way except when you are trying to clear a friendly's 6 o'clock position, or for screenshots.
Delirium
80th "Headhunters"
Retired AH Trainer (but still teach the P38 selectively)

I found an air leak in my inflatable sheep and plugged the hole! Honest!

Offline Cajunn

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 723
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2009, 01:07:04 AM »
Use to turn them off because of they were a bother during a fight, but then I started flying the LA's and now its fine because on the LA's they seem to be few and far spaced........... :salute
“The important thing [in tactics] is to suppress the enemy's useful actions but allow his useless actions. However, doing this alone is defensive.”

Miyamoto Musashi (1584-1645)
Japanese Samurai & Philosopher

Offline Chalenge

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15179
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2009, 02:06:58 AM »
That's why I put I didn't know if it was modeled with less power in the game. I have to use tracers for cannon planes either way. My gunnery with cannons belongs in the outhouse.

I wasnt trying to correct you just informing you.  :D
If you like the Sick Puppy Custom Sound Pack the please consider contributing for future updates by sending a months dues to Hitech Creations for account "Chalenge." Every little bit helps.

Offline ColKLink

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 674
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2009, 02:50:51 AM »
on,....I'm one of them dummys that think they were invented for a reason... :huh
Live each day like it's your last, and one day, you will be right.---- rush 2112,--->" and the sheep shall inherit the earth"......

Offline TexMurphy

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1488
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2009, 04:08:04 AM »
Off

They confuse me and make me waste ammo through using them as a aim device instead of my gunsight.

They also notify my enemy that Im shooting. If I miss without the tracers he doesnt know Im shooting and hence continues to fly predictably. If I miss with tracers he goes into super defensive or panic mode which makes him harder to hit.

Tex

Offline mtnman

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2438
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2009, 06:33:55 AM »
On. 

When I hit my target, I don't notice them.  When I miss, I do notice them, and correct based on where they're going.

I find them more accurate than my gunsight, which I also ignore for the most part.  The gunsight is really only an accurate representation of where your bullets go if you're flying level and at 1G.  Any deviation from that and you can toss the gunsight out the window.  I seldom fire while flying straight and level, so the gunsight is seldom "accurate" for me. 

Personally, the more attention I pay to the sight the worse I shoot.

On the other hand, the tracers always fly in the same area as the rest of my bullets, so give me a fairly accurate representation of where my bullets are going no matter what my flight attitude is...
MtnMan

"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not". Thomas Jefferson

Offline SkyRock

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7758
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2009, 06:42:11 AM »
On. 

When I hit my target, I don't notice them.  When I miss, I do notice them, and correct based on where they're going.

I find them more accurate than my gunsight, which I also ignore for the most part.  The gunsight is really only an accurate representation of where your bullets go if you're flying level and at 1G.  Any deviation from that and you can toss the gunsight out the window.  I seldom fire while flying straight and level, so the gunsight is seldom "accurate" for me. 

Personally, the more attention I pay to the sight the worse I shoot.

On the other hand, the tracers always fly in the same area as the rest of my bullets, so give me a fairly accurate representation of where my bullets are going no matter what my flight attitude is...

:aok

Triton28 - "...his stats suggest he has a healthy combination of suck and sissy!"

Offline frank3

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9352
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2009, 07:44:50 AM »
I've seen several people here saying that tracers confuse them.
How?

Isn't it easier to see exactly where your bulletstream is going?

**This is not an insult, but a genuine question**

Offline Nilsen

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18108
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2009, 07:47:47 AM »
I fly with them off when im in G14 with tater. Nothing like a no-warning-one-shot-kill

Offline RTHolmes

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8260
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2009, 07:58:10 AM »
I fly with them off cause all of those streaks confuse me and I aim worse.

same here. with them on I was actually closing my eyes when firing :rolleyes:

I have turned them on occasionally just to try to get decent screenshots.
71 (Eagle) Squadron

What most of us want to do is simply shoot stuff and look good doing it - Chilli

Offline TexMurphy

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1488
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2009, 09:30:42 AM »
I've seen several people here saying that tracers confuse them.
How?

Isn't it easier to see exactly where your bulletstream is going?

**This is not an insult, but a genuine question**

When I miss with tracers on I always try too see where I missed... "did the tracers go infront or behind my enemy"... Its not easy to see exactly where they went instead if I have tracers off I trust my instincts and adjust in 9 out of 10 cases this adjustment is correct.

Why simply because any time I miss I dont lead my shot enough. I dont need to bother to look and try to see where I missed inorder to know that I should extend my lead.

There is one situation in which turning on tracers can be a good thing. Its if you have flown 50 cal or hispano planes for ages and move to Jap or German planes. Then it could be good to turn on the tracers just to find our exactly how much the guns drop. But just for a few sorties and then turn them off again.

Tex

Offline Patches1

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 668
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2009, 10:03:44 AM »
On....

" ...Patches, when you out-fly your opponent...and acquire his 6 close in...it doesn't matter whether your tracers are on, or off. "

These words were spoken to me by a former Squad Mate in VMF-158 The Green Mountain Boys and he was an experienced Naval Pilot who was, at one time, an instructor at the Navy Fighter Weapons School in Miramar, California.

Fly first...shoot second. Gunnery only proves who out-flew whom.

Just a thought...

<S>



"We're surrounded. That simplifies the problem."- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, General, USMC

Offline frank3

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9352
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2009, 10:06:27 AM »
On....

" ...Patches, when you out-fly your opponent...and acquire his 6 close in...it doesn't matter whether your tracers are on, or off. "

These words were spoken to me by a former Squad Mate in VMF-158 The Green Mountain Boys and he was an experienced Naval Pilot who was, at one time, an instructor at the Navy Fighter Weapons School in Miramar, California.

Yeah but...modern navy doesn't rely on tracers that much these days!

Offline james

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 849
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2009, 10:10:22 AM »
Its all good chalenge. There's a lot modeled and not modeled in the game. I haven't seen anything that describes what is modeled in. I've used m2 .50 calibers and 25mm bushmasters and can tell the difference of power in ammo loadout in RL. In the game I see no difference at all in power but didn't know if maybe the model was inaccurate or there at all. I'm glad there's someone out there that knows and is willing to share it really. Usually I get the whole "wow your a noob and how could you not know" thing here lol. <S>
6GUN  

4.0GHZ Ryzen9 3900x
32GB DDR4 3200
GTX1070

Offline Cajunn

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 723
Re: Tracers.
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2009, 10:13:19 AM »
I've seen several people here saying that tracers confuse them.
How?

Isn't it easier to see exactly where your bulletstream is going?

**This is not an insult, but a genuine question**

I use to have this thing that when I pulled the trigger at the one instance when it was the best angle and the rounds should be right on target, I would get this micro second of screen freeze that was just enough to throw my aim off by making me over compensate. It was just enough to throw you out of sink with the plane your shooting at, I don't notice it as much now and they also had a tendency of overloading the screen and I found myself looking at the tracers and not the target, and that in part was confusing, so I learned how to shoot without them and got pretty good at it.    
“The important thing [in tactics] is to suppress the enemy's useful actions but allow his useless actions. However, doing this alone is defensive.”

Miyamoto Musashi (1584-1645)
Japanese Samurai & Philosopher