Author Topic: What are the "other" new A/C for 1.06 ? (Read 2302 times)

gatt · « **Reply #15 on:** February 26, 2001, 07:35:00 AM »

We still have no Spitfire XIV (even a late Spitfire IX would be nice) and no 190D-9. "Weird" is not enuff to describe it.

Seeker · « **Reply #16 on:** February 26, 2001, 09:42:00 PM »

Seeing as how AH is slowly turning into "Full real Crimsom Skies"; who wants to bet on the Shinden-Kai?

(Oh Lord, please let me have got the name right before they eat me alive......)

Vermillion · « **Reply #17 on:** February 27, 2001, 07:03:00 AM »

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Seeing as how AH is slowly turning into "Full real Crimsom Skies"; who wants to bet on the Shinden-Kai?
(Oh Lord, please let me have got the name right before they eat me alive......)

Hmmm... I don't think I would want to bet against that... considering we have had the N1K2-J Shinden Kai "George" since fairly early in the beta

Throw him to the dogs !!! ** Mob of angry Aero Freaks tosses Seeker into a pit of starving Russian Wolf Hounds **

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Pongo · « **Reply #18 on:** February 27, 2001, 08:40:00 AM »

2 planes left un anounced.
Ill take
Spit XIV
P47N or M

Seeker · « **Reply #19 on:** February 27, 2001, 09:16:00 AM »

You had a Shinden in the beta?

Just to make sure I'm not more confused than normal, the one I'm thinking of is the canard winged pusher monoplane......

And of course the Jap 262 copy, and a cherry blossom would be nice for those CV's, and a warhead load out for Kamikaze's, a flame thrower for the B25 and Sherman and, and, and.

Strange thing. I've been lucky enough to sit in a Spit1, and 109E and a cherry blossom in the Manchester science museum. The cherry blossom had more room than the 109......

Vermillion · « **Reply #20 on:** February 27, 2001, 09:59:00 AM »

Shinden and a Shinden-Kai (which you listed) are two seperate things.

The N1K2-J, which we have in AH, is the "Shinden-Kai".

You are thinking of the J7W1"Shinden", two completely different aircraft.

US Air Force Museum Link for you:
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap18a.htm

Who's your Daddy?

For those that don't know, Seeker is one of the newest members of our Squadron, so I feel it is my profound duty to razz him mercilously.

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Karnak · « **Reply #21 on:** February 27, 2001, 10:08:00 AM »

Actually, its the J7W1 Shiden that is the pusher.

No "n" after the "i".

As HTC is more or less entering the "What If" realm with the Ta152H-1, it might be neat to see it as a perk.

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Curly · « **Reply #22 on:** February 27, 2001, 10:27:00 AM »

Ta152 was produced.

Shinden was a proto-type.

See a difference?

Good.

Curly

Effdub · « **Reply #23 on:** February 27, 2001, 10:33:00 AM »

I'd like to see more russian planes...

Here are two of them:
a) a lend lease P-39 with russian markings
b) a captured 190-D9 with russian markings

Effdub

Spritle · « **Reply #24 on:** February 27, 2001, 01:12:00 PM »

Actually Verm we don't have the Shinden we have the Shiden. Page 320 and 335 of Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific War by R.J. Francillon.
http://www.j-aircraft.com/gallery/navy/n1k1_gallery.htm
http://www.j-aircraft.com/gallery/navy/j7w_gallery.htm

Honestly Verm you must have been without your resources when you made that post

Spritle.

P.S. The Shinden would be a really bad choice. I don't think 1 prototype aircraft that suffered from engine overheating and severe vibration problems would constitute a good choice in aircraft. Total flight time of the 1 powered prototype was 45 minutes. I hardly think this qualifies it as a good fighter.

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Vermillion · « **Reply #25 on:** February 27, 2001, 01:29:00 PM »

Spritle, follow the link in my post

If I'm wrong, then so is the US Air Force Musuem who actually HAS a Kawanishi N1K2-J in its collection.

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Rendar · « **Reply #26 on:** February 27, 2001, 02:12:00 PM »

Ta-152H is not what-if. There was actually an ace in that plane.

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Seeker · « **Reply #27 on:** February 27, 2001, 11:53:00 PM »

So I got the name wrong (grovels).

It'd still be one wierd thing to fly!

There's an Italian version too, the S.A.I. Ambrosini S.S.4. Great idea, but typical Italian workmanship (Note, my Laverda cost me my first nervous breakdown trying to keep the lights working.)

Here's one to get you librarians going: the Martin Baker MB5. You can keep your prop powered U2 prototypes (Ta series), I want a fighter!

A Saunders Roe SRA1 would make C.V.'s superflous (and we made it work! which is more than the Yanks did with their jet sea plane)

And for ultimate silliness, I want a McDonnel XF-85 Goblin, as I never land anyway.

Yes, the more I think about it, the more I think the Goblin is THE squad plane. If we can find one big enough for Westy.

(Has obscure reference books, and is not afraid to use them)

Brat · « **Reply #28 on:** February 28, 2001, 02:20:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Jack55:

Slug?

Spritle · « **Reply #29 on:** February 28, 2001, 10:58:00 PM »

Verm,

It isn't the first time the US Airforce has been wrong and it wont be the last. Head on over to j-aircraft.com and ask in the forum there. Then if you still aren't convinced try hyperscale.com or maybe hlj.com, I could list more. About the only thing the Airforce got right is the George part of the name. That in fact was the Army Aircorps contribution to the naming of Japanese aircraft the Allied Code names. I'm pretty sure they didn't come up with the Japanese names for the aircraft.

Oh yeah one more link if you still have an inkling of doubt. http://www.marksindex.com/aviation/aviation.html

Send an e-mail to the webmaster Mark T. Wlodarczyk mark@marksindex.com

He will confirm the Shiden and Shinden quandary.

Spritle