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Offline PFactorDave

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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2009, 10:03:06 PM »
What I noticed most in that film is your bouncy bouncy nose.  I think that that is the root of your problem.  If you are using a twisty stick and can't get pedals, then you probably need to adjust your dampening and perhaps increase your dead band a bit.

You were shooting at 400 a lot also.  Work on closing that gap a bit more.  Don't rush the shot so much.

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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2009, 10:48:07 PM »
What Dm6 I agree with. You should fly something like the p47 that has alot of ammo to get your eye in. Doesnt matter what rounds you are shooting the lead of a 200mph target turning at 5g is a method that works for all;

Aim well ahead of your target and start shooting early and let them fly into your rounds. As you get better, you use less ammo, as DM6 said.
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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2009, 10:49:16 PM »
Shooting a 30mm is hard no matter how long you've been doing it simple as, I wouldn't go getting all I'm ready to hang myself over it  :D
Use the .target command and you'll see how difficult it is to get a tight grouping with a 30mm

Fire in ones tap the trigger.

Fire the 30mm seperate from the 13mms.

If your flying behind a target and miss readjust for the slightly for the next shot usually 400 and under.

The best way to kill with a 30mm is with a huge target, if its slow so much the better, anticapate their turn ease of the throttle and pull for a full profile shot ie fly to were they are going to be rather than track them and let them fly thru your sight and pop them on the way past.

Learn to shoot with the 13mms they are more accurate than the 30mm and can bring down a running plane on there own or get it to turn anything 600 or over is 13mm turf.

Scale your rudder so the first 3 or 4 sliders are in a gentle progressive slope for aiming.

The best practice for getting your aim right is the DA furball lake there are plenty of erm drones flying around there lol.


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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2009, 11:30:39 PM »
I watched the film.  Part of your problem is that you're not setting up high % shots, but it also seems apparent that you're not on top of the rudder.

What kind of control setup do you have?
« Last Edit: April 02, 2009, 11:33:51 PM by Anaxogoras »
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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2009, 12:14:33 AM »
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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2009, 12:56:18 AM »
Did you notice how uncoordinated your turns were at some points in the film?  You have pedals, better start using them! :)  You don't have to 'fly the ball' all the time, but it would be best to see you ruddering with your turns.

Here's a film where I do an ok job of using the rudder:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jet4mnjgm13

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Edit: you could also benefit from more aggressive scaling on the y-axis, I think.

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Watched the film again.  Unless you're an amputee, you display a strange tendency to rudder too hard to the right in right hand turns, and almost not rudder at all to the left in left hand turns.
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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2009, 01:25:41 AM »
Haha, fair enough assessment. Though, I definitely use my rudder... I guess I've got coordination issues there - gonna have to ponder that as I thought I was doing alright. I mainly rudder hard to assist my rolls and coordinate my turns with about half input in the same direction. I did watch the film again and noticed the ball was way out of centre in my right turns - can't get much more clear than that.

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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2009, 04:03:26 AM »
Haha, fair enough assessment. Though, I definitely use my rudder... I guess I've got coordination issues there - gonna have to ponder that as I thought I was doing alright. I mainly rudder hard to assist my rolls and coordinate my turns with about half input in the same direction. I did watch the film again and noticed the ball was way out of centre in my right turns - can't get much more clear than that.



Sounds like you fly with the same set-up as I do, although I'm not sure which pedals you use.  I use the CH Pro Pedals.  WHen I'm flying, only my toes are on the "heel rim" of the pedals.  I find I don't have the fine control I like if I have my whole foot on the pedals.  I only move my feet up into the "proper" position for landing, so I can use the brakes.
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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2009, 11:16:54 AM »
You were shooting at 400 a lot also.  Work on closing that gap a bit more.  Don't rush the shot so much.

Getting close is a great idea, but if the Muppets, or the 412th are around, you don't have much time before you are picked.

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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2009, 11:18:13 AM »
if the Muppets, or the 412th are around, you don't have much time before you are picked.



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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2009, 03:27:16 AM »
Goto the offline training and put the arena setting for 10 ammomult and shoot the hell out of the Ai's helped me aim a tater.
The man way! Muahaha!

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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2009, 08:51:46 AM »
Personally, the TA-152 has made my aim work considerably. I really don't know what it is, and I probalby with never know but if I get anywere a decent shot, maybe not even a shot that I have should have taken, I land a tater right throught their cockpit and they dissappeer.

That's just me though, I'm probably one in a million :P
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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2009, 09:56:23 PM »
I disagree with "spraying" to train.  I would think it would cause more bad habits than fix them.  I improved my shooting flying a Yak solely based on becoming more patient before shooting.  I stopped taking the shot from 600 yards out and greater (so much  :D).

I think the greatest help is to film and go back and watch where you are missing.  I suppose spraying a lot would help here.  Another thing, watch other's films and see where they are shooting and how they are leading.

Another great help is go to the TA with the lead computing X enabled and see where you should be aiming.  Ask someone if you can shoot at them or just chase some hapless noob and don't shoot.


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Maybe I didnt make my self CLEAR  let me try again...        Spraying to train is not what i said........              Use all your ammo to find out whats going on.... Once you figure out leading the target ect...all those tracers are going to give u alot of visual information that you WILL NOT GET with the yak.....    Then once you figure it out and start to HIT... you then move on to the yak to sharpin your skills.

I would not move to the yak until you know exactly what your doing.......

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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2009, 07:58:18 PM »
Hehe why is it that wrongway always finds firedrgn or dm6 post to flame. lol.

Im bassically in aggrement with what the other have said. the 109 is hard to hit in but once you do down they go.

1. After you find you hit spot.

2. You said it but may not be thinking it like you should. Go for out flying him and the solution will present itself. If you are missing the shot you are not out flying him enough. "Get closer"


3. Turn off tracers, here is where it helps. You will notice you get  longer to shoot if you do miss and the guy in front of you only turns when he hears hits. If you are missing by a lot he thinks he is out flying you. I notice my kills go up when I fly with tracers off just because the guy doesnt have the visual que that you are already shooting him.
By the time he hears the hits it is ususally to late.

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Re: I've hit a wall...
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2009, 08:41:32 PM »
Just to follow up here:

I want to give a big thank you to everyone who responded with advice. I took all of the suggestions into consideration.

I also really want to thank Ghosth and Ren for the in game excersises... I think I've finally found a base to work from to improve my shot - In fact the last session with Ren really shone the light on what I need to be doing to get in for a really high % shot.

 :salute to everyone.
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