DA is a problem

[The Fugitive]

I spent some time in the DA today at the furball area. Anyone who knows me knows my aim is terrible. I got tired of shooting AI in the off-line mission and thought if I hit furball lake a bit I could practice my shooting.

To understand my point of view, I understand a furball as a free for all. Twist and turn, fight till dead and grab a new plane and come back. I did have a couple of good fights, 5 minutes of fun (lost one won one) out of over an hour. The rest of the time was nothing but HOs, runnning, and cherry pickers from high alt. A poor place to practice, lesson learned.

The problem is the new guys who are just getting started end up there and are being taught that this is how the game is played. I saw one guy in there today that was so excited about his first kill....which he died trying to get, but even so was ecstatic at the kill. I called one guy out for running home in his temp so he could land his 2 kills  His excuse was he was out of ammo, big deal fight it out! that's what the arena is suppose to be about. I'll give you a fight even if I only have half a wing, I can learn from that, everyone knows how to run. While trying to get my point across one of those cherrypickers (707200) decided to butt in and defend that "style" of play. By the time I left, the new guy who was so pumped about his first kill was getting instrution on how to get more.... stay fast and pick guys off of other planes and so on. Another one lost to the stupidity that is allow to fester in that swamp.

Its sad when you can't even get a fight in the DA any more, and now we have the new "trainees" learning this crap from this pond scum. "Yee Hahh!"

[BigR]

ive noticed that the skill level in the MA has plummeted in the past couple months. IMO training isn't being pushed hard enough. New players should get automated emails explaining to them were they can find resources to learn what is going on. There should always be a MOTD in the arena. One of the items that should always be on it is where and how to find training.  A lot of players never look at the main site. They just dive right in to the MA without even reading basic instructions. A nice series of intro videos would do a lot of good. Just the basics. What all the parts of the airplane do, how to control each part in the game, the commands, etc.. Maybe even have a film room button in the game. When you click it, you get sent to a briefing room with a projector. From there you can watch whatever videos are available..right in the game. Experienced players could upload their own videos to the system, to be approved by HTC. Its just a thought. I think if you get everyone setup with the basics quickly, their learning curve will be significantly diminished, and they will be encouraged to learn more. Another benefit may be higher retention rates of players who would otherwise get frustrated and leave because they suck so bad.

[Buzzard7]

Hell yeah!! When the FNG's get to the main after the poor practice in the DA all of the skilled sticks should be helping them improve their game play. Stop with the rude comments and get in there and help them. Turn them into the pile-its you would like to see in the MA.

[Masherbrum]

The attitudes of the players has had more effect on the game than anything else.   Too many "self-appointed sh*t-hot sticks" who are notorious for other things.   

I now just play the game and laugh at the ineptness of others, claiming "greatness."

[Bruv119]

killer G ventured out of the furball lake this AM,

He proceeded to interrupt mine and perv's 1vs1 session without responding to country or 200 chat.  I make a fool of his C Hog 4 times in a row and then he goes back to his furball lake and starts talking to some other guys that had joined the arena.

Now I dont mind the odd noob upping into a fight because he cant see anything else on.  But knowingly interfering and then ignoring people??  come on wtf!!!   he obviously found it entertaining in some way.  

All it needs is some manners.  "Can i fight with you guys?"  or "let me watch"  would have been better.  No excuse for what he did.  wasting a good 10 minutes of my precious time to school the guy.  

To top it off he even went on to land 2 kills in a spit 16.  He needed a cig after that, hard bloody work.

all the more  for private H2H arenas for subscibers.

[shppr01]

I am a new player and have the problem of hitting even a windmill with my guns so I joined a squad.
They have helped me more in a day than the DA could in six months!
I sugest new ones ask a squad or the traing arena ! it helped me .There are a lot of good people here who will help not just hinder the new players just to get an easy kill.

[whiteman]

Bruv, I've asked green guys to stay out and i think just gets them a bit more intent on busting a 1v1 up. Furball Bog is what it is.

[Saurdaukar]

The attitudes of the players has had more effect on the game than anything else.   Too many "self-appointed sh*t-hot sticks" who are notorious for other things.   

Chicken / Egg.

[Bruv119]

Bruv, I've asked green guys to stay out and i think just gets them a bit more intent on busting a 1v1 up. Furball Bog is what it is.

we werent in the furball lake!  I realise what the lake is all about i just don't want to see numbskulls coming out of the lake trying to stir watermelon up when they should know better.

[Banshee7]

I have stayed out of the DA for this reason.  I don't think I have ever seen as many skill-less HOing, picking, running, no fighting, ganging, n00bs in one place (except for when the CLAIM JUMPERS are in the MA  )

[DCCBOSS]

I spent some time in the DA today at the furball area. Anyone who knows me knows my aim is terrible. I got tired of shooting AI in the off-line mission and thought if I hit furball lake a bit I could practice my shooting.

To understand my point of view, I understand a furball as a free for all. Twist and turn, fight till dead and grab a new plane and come back. I did have a couple of good fights, 5 minutes of fun (lost one won one) out of over an hour. The rest of the time was nothing but HOs, runnning, and cherry pickers from high alt. A poor place to practice, lesson learned.

The problem is the new guys who are just getting started end up there and are being taught that this is how the game is played. I saw one guy in there today that was so excited about his first kill....which he died trying to get, but even so was ecstatic at the kill. I called one guy out for running home in his temp so he could land his 2 kills  His excuse was he was out of ammo, big deal fight it out! that's what the arena is suppose to be about. I'll give you a fight even if I only have half a wing, I can learn from that, everyone knows how to run. While trying to get my point across one of those cherrypickers (707200) decided to butt in and defend that "style" of play. By the time I left, the new guy who was so pumped about his first kill was getting instrution on how to get more.... stay fast and pick guys off of other planes and so on. Another one lost to the stupidity that is allow to fester in that swamp.

Its sad when you can't even get a fight in the DA any more, and now we have the new "trainees" learning this crap from this pond scum. "Yee Hahh!"

I agree the new member to AH should not be allowed in the DA and should be routed to the Training Arena until some kind of in game time limit expires this way they could get the proper introduction to how the game should be played.

I had a second idea of having a select number of volunteer Squads hosting paying new comers to the game to help get them correctly acclimated or at least pointed in the right direction.

[grizz441]

I agree the new member to AH should not be allowed in the DA and should be routed to the Training Arena until some kind of in game time limit expires this way they could get the proper introduction to how the game should be played.

I had a second idea of having a select number of volunteer Squads hosting paying new comers to the game to help get them correctly acclimated or at least pointed in the right direction.

It's not the new player that makes the Furball Lake a cesspool.  It's the "Furball Vet" who becomes a terrible role model for the new player.  It's cyclical.  Bad players teaching new players how to play bad and passing the torch on.

[Qrsu]

It's too bad that new players skip over the TA and jump right into the DA. It would be kind of cool if there was a way to forcefully funnel new guys into the TA for a minimum x hours before allowed in any other arenas. The guys in the TA do a great job showing people the ropes and practicing ACM in there is a lot easier than against guys who just want to pad a useless score in the DA with their HOing Temps, Spit16s and N1ks.

I think the DA would really clean up if that cycle Grizz mentions was broken by exposing newbies to the benefits of the TA right away.

[grizz441]

There is no concrete solution aside from a drastic face lift to the way the dueling arena operates.

[Steve]

ive noticed that the skill level in the MA has plummeted in the past couple months.

Maybe you are just getting better.