Service Introduction Dates for AH Planes

[eskimo2]

Here is a list of the AH planes as of 1.09:

U.S.Army:
B-17G
B-26B
C-47A
P-38L
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-30
P-51B
P51D Mustang

U.S.Navy:
TBM-3
F4U-1
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4
F6F-5

British:
Hurricane Mk I
Hurricane IIC
Hurricane IID
Lancaster III
Mosquito Mk VI
Seafire IIC
Spitfire Mk IA
Spitfire V
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV
Tempest V
Typhoon

Russian:
Il-2 Type 3
La-5FN
La-7
Yak-9T
Yak-9U

Italian:
C.202
C.205

Japanese:
A6M5b
Ki-61-I-KAIc
Ki-67
N1K2-J

German:
Ar 234B
Bf 109E-4
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-10
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 110C-4b
Bf 110G-2
Fw 190A-5
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
Ju 88A-4
Me 262
Ta 152H

[eskimo2]

Here is a list of the AH planes as of 1.10:

U.S.Army:
A-20G
B-17G
B-26B
C-47A
P-38L
P-40B
P-40E
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-30
P-51B
P51D Mustang

U.S.Navy:
F4F-4
FM-2
F4U-1
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4
F6F-5
SBD-5
TBM-3

British:
Boston MK III
Hurricane Mk I
Hurricane IIC
Hurricane IID
Lancaster III
Mosquito Mk VI
Seafire IIC
Spitfire Mk IA
Spitfire V
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV
Tempest V
Typhoon

Russian:
Il-2 Type 3
La-5FN
La-7
Yak-9T
Yak-9U

Italian:
C.202
C.205

Japanese:
A6M2
A6M5b
D3A-1
Ki-61-I-KAIc
Ki-67
N1K2-J

German:
Ar 234B
Bf 109E-4
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-10
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 110C-4b
Bf 110G-2
Fw 190A-5
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190D-9
Fw 190F-8
Ju 88A-4
Me 262
Ta 152H

[senna]

So much info. Funked, can you provide all this info into a final list and publish it on this thread for us. If you can, most appreciated.

Thanks,

[eskimo2]

OK guys, here's an updated compiled list, please hack away.  I found some info on some of the new planes.  Other planes had many conflicting dates of beginning service, so I chose one and am very likely wrong on a few.
Also, please refrain from spouting random data without making a point...
I.E. please start with "I think that Plane XXX's date should be changed to M-Y, because..." or "I think that Plane XXX's date is correct because..."  
Please feel free to copy the entire list and make changes(and re-post), or start a new list if you don't like how I have it arranged.  Please note that I broke the US planes into Army and Navy (+Marine).  This is because whoever sets-up and arena will probably want to look at Pacific/carrier or Europe, but not both.  Of course they will still have to borrow land-based planes from the Army list, but at least the CV capable planes are separated, and when setting up a non-Pacific arena they won't have to sift through blue planes.:

U.S.Army:
A-20G   ...   5-42
B-17G      ...   6-43
B-26B      ...   5-42
C-47A      ...   12-41
P-38L      ...   7-44
P-40B      ...   1-41
P-40E      ...   8-41
P-47D-11   ...   3-43?
P-47D-25   ...   4-44
P-47D-30   ...   10-44
P-51B   ...      12-43
P51D       ...   1-44

U.S.Navy:
F4F-4      ...   41?
FM-2      ...   9-43
F4U-1      ...   10-42
F4U-1D   ...   4-44
F4U-1C   ...   4-45
F4U-4      ...   4-45
F6F-5      ...   7-44
SBD-5   ...   41?
TBM-3   ...   1-42

British:
Boston MK III   ...   5-41
Hurricane Mk I   ...   12-37
Hurricane IIC      ...   4-41
Hurricane IID      ...   6-42
Lancaster III      ...   3-42
Mosquito Mk VI   ...   7-43
Seafire IIC      ...   10-42
Spitfire Mk IA   ...   6-38
Spitfire V      ...   4-41
Spitfire Mk IX   ...   7-42
Spitfire Mk XIV   ...   3-44
Tempest V      ...   5-44
Typhoon      ...   6-42

Russian:
Il-2 Type 3   ...   10-42
La-5FN   ...   3-43
La-7      ...   6-44
Yak-9T   ...   1-43
Yak-9U   ...   3-44

Italian:
C.202      ...   11-41
C.205      ...   1-43

Japanese:
A6M2         ...   7-40
A6M5b      ...   1-44
D3A-1      ...   41?
Ki-61-I-KAIc      ...   2-43
Ki-67         ...   ?
N1K2-J      ...   2-45

German:
Ar 234B   ...   12-44
Bf 109E-4   ...   5-40
Bf 109F-4   ...   6-41
Bf 109G-2   ...   5-42
Bf 109G-6   ...   10-42
Bf 109G-10   ...   3-44
Bf 110C-4b   ...   7-40
Bf 110G-2   ...   5-42
Fw 190A-5   ...   3-43
Fw 190A-8   ...   2-44
Fw 190D-9   ...   9-44
Fw 190F-8   ...   3-44?
Ju 88A-4   ...   12-40
Me 262   ...   7-44
Ta 152H   ...   2-45

Please add so that we can get a list that looks close to agreeable.
Thanks,
eskimo

[Duedel]

Great great thread!!!! Is it ok for u when i use all these data for my Website ?
I like to add the data so u can filter the planes by date.

[eskimo2]

I found a date for the KI-67, 10-44

eskimo

[funkedup]

Duedel, go ahead.  This list belongs to the community.  

[Mitsu]

First Ki-61-I-KAIc aka Ki-61-I-Tei has rolled out in January, 1944.

[Mitsu]

Ki-67 has begun to be mass-produced () from April, 1943.

[Mitsu]

98th Sentai has received Ki-67-I in May 20, 1944.
This is the first squadron which received Ki-67.

[eskimo2]

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[illo]

Bump.

I will join AH again when we have rps.

[Karnak]

eskimo2, should you chance to revisit this thread,

Are you going by first combat or entering service?

So far as I know, the service entry dates for some of those listed are incorrect.  Here's what I think is correct:

U.S.Army:
B-17G ... 6-43 (Basically correct, but the tail turret type and staggered waist guns marks the AH B-17G as a 1944 B-17G)
P-47D-11 ... 1-44 (I  recall this from one of the "give the P-47D-11 a paddle bladed prop" threads)
P-51D ... 6-44 (The P-51D didn't even enter production until 2-44.  It certainly didn't enter service in 1-44)

British:  
Lancaster III ... 3-42   (Basically correct, but the .50 cal tail turret marks the AH Lanc III as a 1944 Lanc III)
Spitfire Mk XIV ... 1-44 (Spitfire Mk XIVs entered service with 610 Squadron on January 3rd, 1944)
Typhoon ... 9-41 (56 Squadron recived Typhoons in September, 1941.  The AH Typhoon is canopied like a 1943-145 Typhoon and engined like a 1944 Typhoon)

Japanese:  
A6M5b ... 3-44 (The A6M5a entered service in January, 1944.  The b a couple of months after)
D3A-1 ... 37
Ki-61-I-KAIc ... 1-44 (The Ho-5 20mm cannon wasn't available in early 1943)
N1K2-J ... 11-44

[eskimo2]

Thanks Karnak!

I think that the most useful date for our use is the first date the plane made it into the combat zone.  Either way, they all need to be consistant.  

Karnak, it would be great if you would be willing to copy the list I made and update it to what you think correct dates should be.  You are clearly one of the most read on this stuff.  Perhaps put a ! on dates that you are sure of, and a ? on ones that you're not yet sure about (or whatever).  Some of the CT set-ups and SEA events are based on this info, and it would be nice to have it as accurate as possible.  Some AC could use notes telling that a similar earlier model saw combat on XX date, and the later version could make a fair substitute for the earlier one.


Thanks,

eskimo

Originally posted by Karnak
eskimo2, should you chance to revisit this thread,

Are you going by first combat or entering service?

So far as I know, the service entry dates for some of those listed are incorrect.  Here's what I think is correct:

U.S.Army:
B-17G ... 6-43 (Basically correct, but the tail turret type and staggered waist guns marks the AH B-17G as a 1944 B-17G)
P-47D-11 ... 1-44 (I  recall this from one of the "give the P-47D-11 a paddle bladed prop" threads)
P-51D ... 6-44 (The P-51D didn't even enter production until 2-44.  It certainly didn't enter service in 1-44)

British:  
Lancaster III ... 3-42   (Basically correct, but the .50 cal tail turret marks the AH Lanc III as a 1944 Lanc III)
Spitfire Mk XIV ... 1-44 (Spitfire Mk XIVs entered service with 610 Squadron on January 3rd, 1944)
Typhoon ... 9-41 (56 Squadron recived Typhoons in September, 1941.  The AH Typhoon is canopied like a 1943-145 Typhoon and engined like a 1944 Typhoon)

Japanese:  
A6M5b ... 3-44 (The A6M5a entered service in January, 1944.  The b a couple of months after)
D3A-1 ... 37
Ki-61-I-KAIc ... 1-44 (The Ho-5 20mm cannon wasn't available in early 1943)
N1K2-J ... 11-44

[Staga]

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