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Microsoft Extends XP support!
« on: April 07, 2009, 02:18:42 PM »
Microsoft keeps Windows XP alive despite a rapidly approaching planned retirement date and the much anticipated release of Windows 7. Hewlett-Packard is reportedly given the right to continue “downgrading” PC users to Windows XP. A whole generation of Windows users may skip Vista entirely.

The Rasputin of operating systems defies yet another planned death date, as a leaked internal memo from Microsoft makes it clear that Windows XP will continue to live on.

In the memo, Microsoft says it will continue support for Windows XP beyond its latest retirement date of May 30, 2009. Unconfirmed rumors are also circulating that Microsoft will allow Hewlett-Packard to continue shipping computers with Windows XP until April 30, 2010. If that’s true, it’s likely that Microsoft will let other PC vendors do the same.

Perhaps one reason for the extension has to do with the popularity of netbooks, primarily designed for wireless communication and Internet access to Web-based applications. Netbooks typically run some version of the Linux operating system or Windows XP. Microsoft’s Vista is too resource-intensive for the small, low-powered machines.

Despite Windows 7's early popularity, there’s still no confirmed release date, though it’s tentatively scheduled for general availability in October 2009, according to industry sources.

While Microsoft will continue to sell XP, the software giant states in the memo that XP mainstream support will be discontinued, and only security updates will be provided.

"It's important to remind customers that Microsoft are [sic] still planning to retire XP Pro Mainstream support on April 14, 2009 and will only provide OS security updates beyond that date unless the customer has an Extended Hotfix Support contract. MS Extended Support for XP Pro ends on April 8th, 2014," according to the memo.

And it’ll still cost buyers of Windows Vista whose customers want to maintain downgrade rights. While some PC vendors like Dell are charging as much as $150 to downgrade customers from Vista to XP, it’s still unknown how much HP will charge. The downgrades have been used to pacify businesses and consumers that were unhappy with Vista’s compatibility, security and performance woes.

HP was contacted about this report, but has not responded with comment.

Microsoft’s position is that extending XP to and beyond this point allows consumers the choice of upgrading their systems to the “better” Vista (a euphuism for Windows 7) or sticking with Windows XP.

"Based on feedback, Microsoft is further broadening the options provided to direct OEMs to help customers facilitate end-user downgrade rights included in the product license terms of a new system with either Windows Vista Business or Windows Vista Ultimate. These product versions are the only ones to include such end-user downgrade rights,” a Microsoft spokesperson tells Channel Insider.

“This option is designed to help direct OEMs further support customers, primarily small-business customers, looking for Windows XP Professional due to application compatibility concerns.  End-user downgrade rights are a right in the end-user license for Windows Vista Business and Ultimate products, and therefore remain in effect for the life of the product, so this change does not represent an extension,” the spokesperson says.

Nor does Microsoft plan to further its downgrading habit, the spokesperson says.

“Microsoft does not have a downgrade program. It does offer downgrade rights as part of some Windows Vista licenses, including Windows Vista Business purchased through the OEM channel.  Microsoft does not charge or receive any additional royalty if a customer exercises those rights.  Some customers may choose or need to obtain media or installation services from third parties, such as OEMs, to install the downgrade version,” the spokesperson says, adding that the inclusion of downgrade rights isn’t exclusive to Vista and XP.

“This is not the first time that Microsoft has offered downgrade rights to a version other than its immediate predecessor.  In fact, our Software Assurance customers can always downgrade to any previous version of Windows," the spokesperson says.

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Re: Microsoft Extends XP support!
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2009, 02:29:34 PM »
Corporations won't accept Vista, every company I know is keeping fingers crossed for Windows 7 and sticking to XP in the meanwhile.

A major city down here upgraded to Vista and I predicted the consultant would lose his job. Well they're backing off on the plan now after serious implementation trouble.  :aok

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2009, 02:33:22 PM »
Dell has been offering 'downgrades' to XP for about a year now and will continue to do so until XP has been pulled completely off the market.


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Re: Microsoft Extends XP support!
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2009, 02:35:03 PM »
Corporations won't accept Vista...

The former IT director at my work tried in vain to campaign for our company to switch globally to Vista.  Which is the main reason why he's now the former IT director.


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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2009, 02:40:47 PM »
I bet he had a bunch of Microsoft credentials attached to his name.  I wonder when companies are going to learn that those credentials are not conducive to making objective decisions.

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2009, 03:24:41 AM »
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t’s still unknown how much HP will charge

about £15 last time I requested it. bargain :aok
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Re: Microsoft Extends XP support!
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2009, 06:43:14 AM »
So how does this play into this?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/07/microsoft_xp_free_support_ends_april/

Link from DSLReports latest news this morning.

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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2009, 06:59:52 AM »
So how does this play into this?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/07/microsoft_xp_free_support_ends_april/

Link from DSLReports latest news this morning.

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Re: Microsoft Extends XP support!
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2009, 09:08:38 AM »
Umm when was the last time you or anyone used MS support? I never did in my life.

Got it, so this just deals with contacting MS Support people specifically and not the windows update portion.  The part about  "Customers can still get non-security critical fixes if they've enrolled in Microsoft's Extended Hotfix Support program" is what caught my eye; thought this was referencing the critical portion of suggested updates.

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2009, 09:21:58 AM »
Umm when was the last time you or anyone used MS support? I never did in my life.
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Re: Microsoft Extends XP support!
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2009, 09:42:18 AM »
3 Years ago? Back when I surfed hard-core dressed in sticky tape with a beautiful graphic on the front reading, "Malicious Software, stick here!"

Faster and more reliable is to insert your trusty old cd and format the bugger. No support needed.

The real danger behind the XP expirement is that component vendors will stop making / updating drivers for it. So while Windows 95 would be a blazing fast OS on todays hardware, you can't even try it out due to total lack of driver support.

I had a game that would run only in W95 and tried installing my old copy on an athlon box. Couldn't get it stable + no drivers for any of the hardware. But the little bit it run oh boy was it fast.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2009, 09:43:40 AM »
Back then I didn't have my Windows Installer CD. My neighbor installed the OS for me and took the CD with him when he moved.
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2009, 08:59:49 PM »
I bet he had a bunch of Microsoft credentials attached to his name.  I wonder when companies are going to learn that those credentials are not conducive to making objective decisions.

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He had so many that he complained there wasn't enough room for them all on his business card. 


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