mazda miata

[SirLoin]

Miata a womans car?..Hardly.It's an enthusiast's car,a true sports car that handles a race track with little or no modification.

I would rather save some and buy an Elise(Lotus) though.

[CAP1]

Here's the first paragraph from a Car & Driver test.
The perennial Ford-Chevy battle continues with a 225-bhp GT vs a 220-bhp IROC-Z

The black Camaro was a distant speck as it came off the wall-of-death banking at Ohio's Transportation Research Center. Its size grew with the approaching whoosh of air; this wasn't a car driving past so much as an aircraft buzzing our small group. The whoosh became WHOOSH as the Camaro approached as fast as something in Col Kadafi's worst nightmare, then disappeared. Only the timing lights in front of us could testify that the Camaro was ever there, its appearance was so brief. The result: 149.20 mph. Only a few minutes before, the 1987 Mustang GT had recorded 148.10 mph. The musclecars have grown up.

/hijack

and let us not forget.......ford did that with a 5.0L, whilst the iroc used a 5.7L.

anyone remember what iroc stood for?

[CAP1]

Miata a womans car?..Hardly.It's an enthusiast's car,a true sports car that handles a race track with little or no modification.

I would rather save some and buy an Elise(Lotus) though.

see....the problem here, is that the majority of those that are critisizing the miata have never driven on.

 i had that customer with the turbocharged one......i had a friend that had a stock one. these things handle like slot cars. the engines pull right up to 6500rpm, easily. the trannys shift smooth as glass. they stop excellent. to buy a used one is cheap now......what more could one ask for?

 that said, i still won't give up my v8's. 

[RTHolmes]

The perennial Ford-Chevy battle continues with a 225-bhp GT vs a 220-bhp IROC-Z

225bhp from 5.0l

[Masherbrum]

and let us not forget.......ford did that with a 5.0L, whilst the iroc used a 5.7L.

anyone remember what iroc stood for?

International Race of Champions.   

IIRC, one of those rags tested a Vette and a Mustang GT around 89 or 90 and the Vette lost.   

[CAP1]

225bhp from 5.0l

better than 220 from a 5.7, eh? 

remember........todays mustang...........5.4L shelbyized 600+ hp 

[Masherbrum]

225bhp from 5.0l

They had to rebuild their engine programs after the OPEC crisis.  Also, they had to test the consumers to find out if wasting R & D in Engine Development was worth it.   Then someone named John Plant in 1993 started SVT.  

Let it be known, Ford never truly appreciated what they had with Cosworth.  They tried a few times, but just never allowed Cosworth to do the engine designs themselves.  

[CAP1]

International Race of Champions.   

IIRC, one of those rags tested a Vette and a Mustang GT around 89 or 90 and the Vette lost.   

i cant see a vette losing to a mustang OR a camaro......but then the car and driver, road and track testers suck.


i was leaning towards a non-pc meaning for iroc......but i'm a little afraid to put it here........

[Masherbrum]

i cant see a vette losing to a mustang OR a camaro......but then the car and driver, road and track testers suck.


i was leaning towards a non-pc meaning for iroc......but i'm a little afraid to put it here........

Me either, the next test they did, the higher DISPLACEMENT Vette, won.

Oh, you mean "Italian..............."?     

[sluggish]

and let us not forget.......ford did that with a 5.0L, whilst the iroc used a 5.7L.

anyone remember what iroc stood for?

Depending on what year this article is from.  Chevy put the 305 / 5.0 in the IROC until 86 or 87.

If I were going for a small displacement sport car I'd go for one of these.  Beats the Miata in every aspect.

[CAP1]

Me either, the next test they did, the higher DISPLACEMENT Vette, won.

Oh, you mean "Italian..............."?     

 

yeppers.....


italian ****** out cruising. 

funny thing was, that most of them i saw around here....were the "vinnie barberio" types.

[Masherbrum]

yeppers.....


italian ****** out cruising. 

funny thing was, that most of them i saw around here....were the "vinnie barberio" types.

Same here in Metro Detroit.   My buddy that had the Omni GLH-S drag raced an IROC-Z for "slips".   The IROC-Z lost (it wasn't even close) and my buddy "gimme all the cash on you."   He made $1,200 for that race.      

[CAP1]

Same here in Metro Detroit.   My buddy that had the Omni GLH-S drag raced an IROC-Z for "slips".   The IROC-Z lost (it wasn't even close) and my buddy "gimme all the cash on you."   He made $1,200 for that race.      

nice................

that;s why i NEVER race for slips. i tend to race for fun..........way back when i used to run on front street, i let my girlfriend drive..........ooooooooooo... .that dude was PISSED!!
 he didn't like losing to a girl.  if i recall, it was a 440 charger.........but i'm not sure, as it was over 20 years ago.

[Tec]

Depending on what year this article is from.  Chevy put the 305 / 5.0 in the IROC until 86 or 87.

Actually they put the 305 in IROC-Z/Z-28 cars until the end of the 3rd gens in 1992, but in 1987 the L98 350 was added to the lineup and that's what was tested in the article.

[Cthulhu]

Depending on what year this article is from.  Chevy put the 305 / 5.0 in the IROC until 86 or 87.

If I were going for a small displacement sport car I'd go for one of these.  Beats the Miata in every aspect.

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They had to turbocharge that thing just to make 20 more horsepower than the 240 hp my S2K gets with the same displacement normally-aspirated.
Very impressive.

If you're really serious about a small car that can trounce the big boys: