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Offline eddiek

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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2001, 09:55:00 AM »
Daff,
I agree with you on the field mods, but if they are gonna exclude field mods on one plane, they ought to, IMHO, exclude them on all the planes.
This 190F-8 coming in 1.06........someone posted that the planes were A models with field mods done to make them F-8's, or something to that effect.  Our 109G-10 has the 109K-4 engine in it, performs like the K-4, yet it is still referred to as the G-10.  
How many G-10's came from the factory like this, or were they upgraded in the field?  
As to a Jug with water injection, 72" MAP, 150 octane fuel, and paddle prop, I would ask how "common" was this?  It is a known fact that all the aircraft manufacturers had field reps, and they were always looking for better performance, and if cranking up the MAP was common practice, by all means, let's have it.    
In AH, right now, there seems to be a tendency to lean toward the low production aircraft (case in point Hawg-C and soon to be released TA-152H   ) rather than aircraft that were in widespread use in the war.  
I do admit that I lean toward the US iron, but I try to fly all the birds.  I would love to see the 190D-9 in here.  From what I read, was pretty common to see one in the skies of Europe from what?  late 1943 on?
Not a whine, just my opinion on where we appear to be heading at the moment.........

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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2001, 10:18:00 AM »
Gents,

I hope to get this data scanned today, and have it posted this week.

Just a note. The date of many of these Docs. is Oct 1944 is the same date as the Joint fighter conferance. Probably where this data was collected.

On the issue of manifold pressure. It list the F4U-3, 4 and 5 performance at various manifold pressures up until 78" in the -3 giving up until 387MPH on the deck and 487MPH at 30,000Ft. So it becomes obvious that the manifold pressures were by no means a constant in WW2 fighters.

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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2001, 10:18:00 AM »
I think the F-8 was a factory model, simply due to the structural changes required for the hardpoints and weapon release systems.
(I'm now a FW expert, so I'll leave that to them).
As for waterinjection, paddlebladed prop and 150 octane gas, I believe (I dont know for sure) that it was very common..I've heard it about 3 different FG's now.
 I wont reply to the rest about latewar stuff as I'll probably just upset some people  

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Offline eddiek

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2001, 10:57:00 AM »
I am by no means a LW expert, I just go by what the resident "experten" have posted and what I read.
As to the latewar stuff, seems some are already upset, and  from the looks of things, they are gonna be more upset here in the near future.
BTW, which FG's used the stuff we talked about, water injection, paddle-prop, and high octane fuel?  

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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2001, 02:42:00 PM »
Here's some octane numbers I posted previously for F4UDOA:

A3: 80 octane fuel, sometimes rated at 85 octane
B4: 87 octane
C3: 96 octane, sometimes rated at 100 octane

Sources:
Squadron/Signal Pub Bf-109 in Action Pt 2
Luftwaffe Fuel Types

The Fw-190 F8 was a factory model produced in a regular production run. It ran on C3 fuel and did have a paddle prop. Boost was the standard fuel injection port in the left supercharger inlet for 10-15 minute boost. It was only good under 6,000 feet (I've heard 3,000 feet as well).


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