Damn Karaya beat me to it *shakes fist*Sapphire and Powercolor both make AGP versions of the HD3850.My only complaint with the AGP version of the 3850 is that I have to wait for the hotfix drivers each time ATI releases a new driver revision. For some reason, ATI is utterly incapable of adding the fix for the AGP card with each new driver revision and instead releases them as a hotfix driver about a week after the release of the new driver revision.ack-ack