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Offline Guppy35

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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #90 on: May 06, 2009, 12:40:21 PM »
        Lol I don't have a problem with the squads mentioned except sometimes the seriousness that some of the players take this land grabbin. I was JOKING last night about a Stuka raid the knights were mounting on squad channel, that it would be funny to switch countries up DAS SCHWALBE and slaughter them for shi@s and giggles. Nearly instantly I got a message on country " JOIN US DON'T RAT US OUT" lol

            someday they may understand that getting repeatedly picked over tank town during some really good fights and complaining about it on 200 till corky yells at you is the way to play :)



LOL well, we were having fun.  We have been discussing if this is in fact a mugging, as you dove in on 3 38s and we got you going back up.  I think all three of us got hits :)

Can you mug someone going back up? :)
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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #91 on: May 06, 2009, 12:50:31 PM »
LOL well, we were having fun.  We have been discussing if this is in fact a mugging, as you dove in on 3 38s and we got you going back up.  I think all three of us got hits :)

Can you mug someone going back up? :)
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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #92 on: May 06, 2009, 01:03:24 PM »
Hording/NOE Missions...... :rofl

Base Capturing...... :rofl

People do these things because they can't/won't/are afraid to fight....

Bullcrap.

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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #93 on: May 06, 2009, 01:37:29 PM »
Lets put it like this, I'll bet ya'll have played Monopoly. Win or loose the  game is suppose to be fun. Wheelin and dealin just having fun with a bunch of friends. Now I'm sure we all know at least one player that takes the game a bit too serious, always works the deals to death getting every possible advantage they can. Plays as tight, or as cut throat a game as they can. This is the one player nobody likes to have in the game. They just suck the fun right out of it. It gets to the point that when people suggest "lets play!" and this person is in the game, most just say nawww, because they know it won't be fun, and after all thats what playing a game is suppose to be about, fun.

Now we're getting somewhere, Fugitive. You've admitted that it is nothing but a matter of preference for a certain playing style, and shown that you don't think anyone can legitimately prefer a different style than you do.

Has it occurred to you that maybe there are groups of people who LIKE playing cutthroat Monopoly? That they have more fun that way? Not if they play cutthroat and no one else does, but if everyone in the game plays that way?

This can be extended to many, many games. Poker. Croquet. Diplomacy. Tennis.

And Aces High.

Some people like to play a relaxed, friendly game and others like to push the game to the limit, as long as everyone obeys the rules and no fights break out. Some people enjoy both styles, depending on their mood and the circumstances.

This may seem strange and wrong to you, but it isn't. They're having just as much fun as you are, they're just doing it differently, in a way you personally wouldn't enjoy.

And as much as your group hates it when a player comes into your game and plays the way your group doesn't like, trust me, they hate it JUST as much, and just as legitimately, when you show up at one of their cutthroat games and spend three hours doing nothing but carping and whining and insulting everyone else for not playing the "right" way or being "nice" or "fun".

And that's exactly what you're continually doing on this forum.

Aces High isn't a Monopoly game with four players, it's a hall with 20 or 30 Monopoly games going at the same time, or a park with 20 or 30 croquet games, but the boundaries are not well-defined. Occasionally players with different styles will interfere with each other or people will end up in a group they're a poor match for, but 80% of the time, if you want to and are willing to make a minimal effort, you can play your way in one part of the room with other like-minded players while other people play their way in another part of the room.

But you and some other folks here aren't willing to do that. You'd rather toss insults around and whine and cry and hold your breath until all those other nasty people stop playing the way they like and start playing the way YOU approve of. And you say that if they don't, you'll eventually just take your mallet and your ball and go home, like several others have done.

That is the very definition of childish behavior.

The grownup way to handle the situation would be to stop feeling compelled to fight the hordes, let them do what they want, and just walk (fly) away, go to a different sector, and find a fight more to your liking. Stop letting it eat you up inside that somewhere else on the map others are doing something you think is pointless and stupid.

If you learn to do that instead of whining that it ain't like the good ol' days anymore, you'll be able to enjoy the game a lot more.

FYI, I'm one of the folks who enjoys both styles of croquet (etc.) and wouldn't want to see either go away. I play a mean game of Death Match Croquet.

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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #94 on: May 06, 2009, 01:44:18 PM »
The grownup way to handle the situation would be to stop feeling compelled to fight the hordes, let them do what they want, and just walk (fly) away, go to a different sector, and find a fight more to your liking. Stop letting it eat you up inside that somewhere else on the map others are doing something you think is pointless and stupid.


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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #95 on: May 06, 2009, 03:38:17 PM »
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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #96 on: May 06, 2009, 03:45:57 PM »
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How narrow a view of things you have! We are not talking about "just a horde", or just another "gang bang", or just another "divebombing lanc" where talking about a trend in game play. Check my score back in tour 62, MDJOE then. Its not much different than my scores now. I flew about the same amount of time, flew about the same number of sorties, helped capture a base or two, but I can tell you the game play was much better then, much more fun than there is now.

If you saw a gang bang it was only now and then, the same goes for dive bombing lancs and hordes. The problem is now they are becoming the normal way to play. Those that have played for only a year or two accept it because thats the way its always been for them. Thats why they look at me like I'm a nut, but see I remember when it wasn't this bad.

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You'd rather toss insults around and whine and cry and hold your breath until all those other nasty people stop playing the way they like and start playing the way YOU approve of. And you say that if they don't, you'll eventually just take your mallet and your ball and go home, like several others have done.

When have I tossed around insults? I may have replied to some, but I don't toss them around. Also, seeing as this is a "discussion board" I'm discussing what I believe are problems in the game. Its not whining, its not complaining, and I'm not holding my breath for the likes of you or any other people on these boards. You don't want to join in the discussion, shove off mate! It looks like the reason you support the horde so much is because its the only place you can survive long enough to do anything other than grabbing alt to target. I don't "discuss" this stuff in the game. I will congratulate someone an a great HO or gang when I get frustrated enough, but I'm usually wayyyy too busy trying to keep my plane in the air to bother "discussing" things.

The only game play I'm looking to change is LAME game play. This game isn't about 20 people "sneaking a base", nor is it about 5 people chasing one enemy around seeing who can get the most rounds into him before they die to kill shooter.

You want to bring 5 guys to fight me I'm going to die, and most likely pretty quickly, wheres the fun in that? On the other hand have 3 of your buddies circle above while you and one other attack me. I should still be dead, but the out come isn't as sure a thing any more, more fun for all of us. If I get lucky and take out one of you guys, another drops in and it continues. If I ran into fights like that I'd up a hundred times and keep trying to beat you guys. 5 on 1 gets old fast, and you might get me to come back a couple times. Which is more fun, all night fighting a guy that comes back a bunch of times, or ganging 1 guy a couple times?

The same goes for base taking and GVs, if the fights fun, everyone keeps coming back. Thats why guys lost wifes, and jobs in the old days. The fight were so much fun it was ALWAYS..."OK, just one more". Today, you get into a fight like that only once in awhile. People get bored with the same steam roll and log, or get frustrated fighting the same lame crap and log.


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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #97 on: May 06, 2009, 03:52:48 PM »
been on several of Thundereggs JUG missions, if you can't spot a dar bar 2 sectors from the front line and moving 3-4 sectors then theres nothing anyone can provide to help you find a big mission besides a PM saying here we come. Which has been done before only to see no one show up for that either.

While I'm on climb out and flying to the target I'm watching the map for large dar bars moving and bases away from the fight.

What does any of this have to do with NOE mishuns?

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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #98 on: May 06, 2009, 04:10:46 PM »
seeing as this is a "discussion board" I'm discussing what I believe are problems in the game. Its not whining, its not complaining


Really no offense towards you intended, but---- you're not "discussing", you're filabustering.

You have been incessently hitting people over the head with your "opinion" on this subject for weeks!

If someone disagrees with your opinion on the matter, you start up all over again.

Just because you repeat something over and over and over again, it won't change alot of peoples mind on the subject, obviously.

If you expect people to respect "your" opinion, you should respect theirs also.

I think we know where you stand on the issue.

And while I can appreciate your passionate views on the subject , maybe you should  realize that others are just as passionate about their views as you are, and just agree to disagree.

Its what happens when you get large groups of people together.

I neither agree or disagree with your postion.

If I'm in an area of the map where I find things I don't like, I move. Its ususally a pretty big map, lots to do.

No big deal really.

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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #99 on: May 06, 2009, 05:41:15 PM »
Bullcrap.


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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #100 on: May 06, 2009, 06:17:06 PM »

Really no offense towards you intended, but---- you're not "discussing", you're filabustering.

You have been incessently hitting people over the head with your "opinion" on this subject for weeks!

If someone disagrees with your opinion on the matter, you start up all over again.

Just because you repeat something over and over and over again, it won't change alot of peoples mind on the subject, obviously.

If you expect people to respect "your" opinion, you should respect theirs also.

I think we know where you stand on the issue.

And while I can appreciate your passionate views on the subject , maybe you should  realize that others are just as passionate about their views as you are, and just agree to disagree.

Its what happens when you get large groups of people together.

I neither agree or disagree with your postion.

If I'm in an area of the map where I find things I don't like, I move. Its ususally a pretty big map, lots to do.

No big deal really.

Its just a game.

How can you have a discussion with out replying to a reply? If people don't go back and forth voicing their ideas and opinions it just becomes a list of statements. I respect other peoples opinions and some have even changed mine, but not to debate a topic is silly. Who knows what might come of the discussions.

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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #101 on: May 06, 2009, 06:27:20 PM »
Who knows what might come of the discussions.

Evidence thus far suggests nothing.
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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2009, 06:30:42 PM »
Evidence thus far suggests nothing.

I was laughing at his respecting other opinions comment.  If I had more time I'd go through and quote the nastier remarks he has made toward people who don't agree.  Social misfit, lemming, 12 year old...  Ya right, lots of respect there...

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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #103 on: May 06, 2009, 07:00:17 PM »
It looks like the reason you support the horde so much is because its the only place you can survive long enough to do anything other than grabbing alt to target.

Now that's exactly what I'm talking about. You spout that kind of crap nonstop, I must have seen you say it 20 or 30 times in the last few months. You call people cowards and social misfits and HOers and everything else. And you're blowing smoke out your posterior.

You don't know the first thing about how I fly. I think I've seen you all of one time when I was flying Rooks, and I'm pretty sure I've never killed you or been killed by you. And yet you know enough to tell me exactly how good or bad I am and exactly how I choose to fly based on what? All you know about me are the opinions I express here and my rank. And we all know scores can't tell the first thing about what kind of flier you are, at MOST it's a very rough measure of skill (and I never claimed to be great or even above average in fighters).

So all you're left with is, people who think like me all suck, which is what you say here several times every day. Well, I can say everyone with an opinion like yours is a pinko four-flushing coupon-clipping HOing nerfherder, but what basis would I have for concluding that? None whatsoever. I have no idea whether you're a model citizen or whether you kick your dog, steal candy from small children, and camp spawn points. Which is why I don't make claims about how skilled or unskilled you are or how you like to fly or anything else about you EXCEPT the opinions you express here, which stink.

You're just BSing and that's all. And you're only going to persuade people NOT to listen to you that way.

And for the record, I have never said hordes were a good thing or that I prefer flying in them. All I've said is that what you keep whining about hordes is BS. Not the same thing at all.

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Re: Question about a Horde
« Reply #104 on: May 06, 2009, 09:18:28 PM »
Evidence thus far suggests nothing.

Last time there was a big discussion on the boards we got split arenas.

I was laughing at his respecting other opinions comment.  If I had more time I'd go through and quote the nastier remarks he has made toward people who don't agree.  Social misfit, lemming, 12 year old...  Ya right, lots of respect there...

And as I said, you start calling me names and drag the discussion into the mud I shovel it right back at you. Go ahead and hunt, you'll find some smart bellybutton remark was thrown at me so I returned the favor, but I very rarely ever start the mud slinging.

Now that's exactly what I'm talking about. You spout that kind of crap nonstop, I must have seen you say it 20 or 30 times in the last few months. You call people cowards and social misfits and HOers and everything else. And you're blowing smoke out your posterior.

You don't know the first thing about how I fly. I think I've seen you all of one time when I was flying Rooks, and I'm pretty sure I've never killed you or been killed by you. And yet you know enough to tell me exactly how good or bad I am and exactly how I choose to fly based on what? All you know about me are the opinions I express here and my rank. And we all know scores can't tell the first thing about what kind of flier you are, at MOST it's a very rough measure of skill (and I never claimed to be great or even above average in fighters).

So all you're left with is, people who think like me all suck, which is what you say here several times every day. Well, I can say everyone with an opinion like yours is a pinko four-flushing coupon-clipping HOing nerfherder, but what basis would I have for concluding that? None whatsoever. I have no idea whether you're a model citizen or whether you kick your dog, steal candy from small children, and camp spawn points. Which is why I don't make claims about how skilled or unskilled you are or how you like to fly or anything else about you EXCEPT the opinions you express here, which stink.

You're just BSing and that's all. And you're only going to persuade people NOT to listen to you that way.

And for the record, I have never said hordes were a good thing or that I prefer flying in them. All I've said is that what you keep whining about hordes is BS. Not the same thing at all.

Read above as to your comments about the mud slinging.

Loki, you've been flying what 6 months, and you got this stuff all figured out. Explain to what is "good" about horde. You've seen me go on and on about what I think is bad about them, whats good?

Yes I'm only guessing what type of player you are. I'm baseing it off what you say, how you say it, time in game, and the general over all game play of the majority of new players. Maybe I'll look you up and fly with you, get some first hand experience.