Question about LW boost systems

[StSanta]

Or rather what they had in RL/what they have in AH.

The G10 has MW50, or so someone told me. The other models have some other variants, or so I was told. Anyone got approximate numbers for what the situation was in RL?

Other question; what's the horsepower diffference between the A8 and A5? Just curious why a heavier plane is faster on the deck than a plane that essentially has the same drag but is lighter.



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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by StSanta:
Other question; what's the horsepower diffference between the A8 and A5? Just curious why a heavier plane is faster on the deck than a plane that essentially has the same drag but is lighter.

I'll steal this one from Funked's mouth  

109G10 has MW50 in AH. No other LW plane is fitted with it. (hopefully the next one is a Fw190D9  )

Fw190A8 has a boost override that Fw190A5 hasn't. That system gave extra engine power at very low altitudes. That's the reason why A8 is faster at the deck than A5.

Here is a complete explanation of all and each of german boost systems   sorry the long load, but I think it¡s worth it:

 

 


[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 10-29-2000).]

[StSanta]

Thanks ram, now I just need an answer to the other question  

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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

[juzz]

Good stuff RAM!

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by StSanta:
Thanks ram, now I just need an answer to the other question    

Problem is-there is not such answer, Stsanta...at least not as you ask it.

LW planes were a big mix of subvariants. For instance, the 109G6 was the standard 109 in LW for nearly a year. BUt there were so many U and R versions that in the end there were some 20 subvariants used. Some of them had MW50 fitted, some of them didnt.A lot of them had GM1 fitted, a lot of them didn't...

Even in the type of engine there was a lot of disparity,  some of them carried the DB605A, others the AS, others the AM and others the D (the same engine as in G10).

So you see, the main ,standard, type of the me109 had 4 different types of engine...and many G6s were fitted with MW50, but many of them weren't...some of them with GM1, some of them without it...

how many?...we will never know. There are no real numbers on this matter, only appreciations.  

The G6 in AH has NO MW50 system, and AFAIK, a DB605A engine. IMHO, well done by HTC. without MW50 we have a standard mid-43 109G6, that can be used in midwar mediterranean and russian scenarios. That wouldn't happen with a MW50 fitted 109G6  

IMHO the best thing would be to give each plane a selectable booster GM1, MW50 or none,to select them just as you can select weapons. THat way you get a midwar G6 or a latewar G6 with only a click.  


[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 10-29-2000).]

[Nath-BDP]

Umm well the G6 in this game has a yellow Defense of the Reich fuselage band denoting that its an aircraft from JG 11... these bands starting appearing in Mid '44.

Starting in early '44 G6s with DB 605A were beginning to be equipped with MW 50/GM 1 systems and the DB 603AM was an engine specifically designed for use of the GM1/MW 50.

This G6 is _Not_ a mid 43 aircraft.

The G10 we have in this game is an aircraft that was fitted with the DB 605DC powerplant which is said to be the fastest of all 109G.

     

Heres a profile of the G10 we have in AH, note the 98 octane triangle.

[This message has been edited by Nath-BDP (edited 10-29-2000).]

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Nath-BDP:

This G6 is _Not_ a mid 43 aircraft.

Well, Nath, its performance is that of a mid 43 G6.

ANd the camo scheme isn't that of Erich Hartmann's plane.? East Front, not defence of the reich.

Moot point anyway. AH's 109G6 is a midwar plane,regardless of the art on it. Its performance is that of a mid 1943 plane.

[Nath-BDP]

According to the chart it performs just like a DB 605AM equipped G6 should--I also think the AH model might have MW 50 or GM 1.

[Nath-BDP]

Ahh ok... our G6 is painted after a G14/AM that Hartmann flew but ours is lacking the yellow on the engine access panel and the band around the fuselage is too wide and makes it look like a DOTR aircraft.

PS The JG 52 DOTR bands were Red/White.

[Replicant]

Luftwaffe planes run on hot air?  

Regards

Nexx

[juzz]

 

According to the chart it performs just like a DB 605AM equipped G6 should--I also think the AH model might have MW 50 or GM 1.

This is the speed chart of a Me 109G-6 with 1800HP? I wouldn't think so. I'd say its a G-6/R6...
 

[GRUNHERZ]

Hi

Most sources agree to the figure of about around 387mph for a G6 without MW50 or GM1. Boost systems would of course increase that speed but Ive never really found any consistent numbers for it, but 408mph with MW50 is what I saw mentioned a few times.

thanks GRUNHERZ