Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16

[DamnedRen]

Fly wacha brought. Let the rest of the peeps complain. 'sides, only dweebs complain bout dweebs.

Ren

[1Boner]

Spit xvi is a fine plane to fly--don't let idiots tell ya whats a "dweeb" ride. If you like it, fly it.

Just stay away from the La-7, it really is the dweebiest ride in the game.

[The Fugitive]

It's called a noob ride because even a noob can get a kill with 1

Its just a name. Like the "hog", the "goon", "tiffy", they are just names to identify planes. As Shawk said, its a plane that even noobs/dweebs can get a kill in so thats the name that stuck. Who can fly it? Anybody, much like the hog, the goon, the tiffy.....

[Cajunn]

I brought this up because, for one I'm 43, I play this game because I grew up reading about these war 2 planes and the story's and the history. I'm an average player, I have taken the classes, had 1 on 1 with trainers and I'm not going to ever be anything but an average player (I'm not a gamer) and I'm OK with that. So if I can fly something that makes me a little more competitive, in turn I have more fun then that's good for me. And I just don't think its right for people like myself to be ridiculed because of something like what plane I like flying. Yes this is a game, but I think people forget what brought them to this game in the first place (not all). This game was like a childhood dream come true for a lot of us, most people that are here and take the time and money to be a part of this community is because of the historical significance and I'm sure to many, like myself its more about being around a lot of people with the same interest. So I think that name calling and some of the BS on this BBS has drawn a lot of people into insignificant topics and we end up debating with teenagers like teenagers over some fairly childish things. When in the real world we would in fact just tell them to shut up and listen , I'm not participating in the BBS anymore unless I have an intelligent question about something significant,   to everyone who reads this and I hope I haven't hurt any feelings but I like trying to make a point.    

[PFactorDave]

If you like spit16 so much why don't you try the Ki-84. It has more personality

+1 

I love the Ki84, I find it waaaaaay more fun then any of the Spits.

One thing that I noticed way back when I stopped flying Spits all the time...  My flying got better.  I was no longer leaning on the Spits turn rate as a crutch.  The other thing that I noticed right away...  There are a whole lot of other planes that don't break apart nearly as easily as the Spits do, so if you're like me and get hit quite a bit, it helps to have a slightly tougher bird.

[PanosGR]

Just stay away from the La-7, it really is the dweebiest ride in the game

on the contrary. La after they remodeled it they made it "less easy" to fly The stick feels more heavy and the turn radius reduced to normal. I think was a move by the the development team towards the right direction.

[moot]

Only the flaps changed.

[Kazaa]

There was a huge thread about the la7 being nerfed when it was remodelled and retextured, did anyone from HTC end up replying in the thread?

The La7 is still a very, very, elite ride.

According to the Discovery channel, the Spitfire was only the second best plane in WW2. 

[moot]

Pyro said in that update's change log and in one of those threads that only the flaps changed, IIRC.

[Kazaa]

WTF is Panos going on about then?

[SKJohn]

There was a huge thread about the la7 being nerfed when it was remodelled and retextured, did anyone from HTC end up replying in the thread?

The La7 is still a very, very, elite ride.

According to the Discovery channel, the Spitfire was only the second best plane in WW2. 

Would that be the same Discovery Channel that told us about the awesome firepower of the P-51D's six FIFTY MILLIMETER machine guns?

[moot]

Kazaa there's always someone who'll get some placebo effect after an update or after having been out of the game for a while.

Would that be the same Discovery Channel that told us about the awesome firepower of the P-51D's six FIFTY MILLIMETER machine guns?

[BnZs]

This is the attitude that gets me moot...I'm just using your post as an example, it is pretty widespread. People are willing to admit it is a superior plane. People are willing to call those who fly it names. Yet people are unwilling to consider even a light perk price for it.

As for me, I say as long as HTC gives you such a tool for free, feel free to use it.

It gets so much flak because, unlike you describe it Cajunn, it doesn't just do those things "well" but does them very well, and those things aren't independent. Remove the maneuvering E-retention on the Ta152 and you've got a terrible lump of junk. Remove the P38's neutral torque and you have a lumbering and compressing target.  The Spit16's combination of excellent (yes, excellent) visibility, turn (instant and continuous), roll, climb, and easy ballistics, and extremely forgiving handling, make it the quintessential dweeb ride.  End of story.

Whether you want to attach a stigma to this is another story.  I see nothing inaccurate about calling it a noob ride though.

[moot]

In that same post it clearly says that how easymode and dweeby it might be is separate from whether that's worth a stigma.
As far as perking, we already argued it. I think the spit16 isn't good enough to be perked. It doesn't unbalance gameplay (could, but doesn't) and whether something's clearly a noob's dream ezmode plane is corelated to but not cause for perking. 

[BnZs]

I brought this up because, for one I'm 43, I play this game because I grew up reading about these war 2 planes and the story's and the history.

This ideal is somewhat in opposition to the idea of flying whatever is modeled to be most "uber".

I'm an average player, I have taken the classes, had 1 on 1 with trainers and I'm not going to ever be anything but an average player (I'm not a gamer) and I'm OK with that. So if I can fly something that makes me a little more competitive, in turn I have more fun then that's good for me.

Have you ever considered that you are not hopeless and would not *need* a Spit16 to feel competitive if you weren't continuously competing against hordes of Spit16s in the first place?