Give perks for changing sides!

[hammer]

Not a bad idea at all, really. While the perk modifier is currently in place, lots of people don't understand it. An immediatly visible incentive for switching to the lowest numbered side would, IMHO, make switching much more inviting to a much larger portion of the population. As Baumer pointed out, this would be especially beneficial for newer players.

Regards,

Hammer

[Chalenge]

Bad idea and it WILL be abused through switching every chance someone gets just to get more and more perks.

[Chalenge]

dp

[AWwrgwy]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

 


wrongway

[hammer]

Bad idea and it WILL be abused through switching every chance someone gets just to get more and more perks.

How is it abuse if they're switching to the side with the lowest number? Also, I figured some form of time limit would still be in effect.

Regards,

Hammer

[Chalenge]

There are already people that change sides for the benefit of the perk modifier and there will be people that change sides every hour on the hour for the perks especially the people that cant get 25 perks in a week of flying. It doesnt take much imagination to figure that out.

[hammer]

There are already people that change sides for the benefit of the perk modifier and there will be people that change sides every hour on the hour for the perks especially the people that cant get 25 perks in a week of flying. It doesnt take much imagination to figure that out.

So? If it keeps the sides balanced, what's the harm in someone switching sides? There are a lot of abuses in the game that I would worry about before I get concerned about someone switching to the side with the lowest numbers too often.

Like I said earlier, I would presume some form of time limit would remain in effect. I could also see a need to make sure someone actually flew versus just switching and sitting in the tower. The need for some regulation, however, doesn't make the basic premise of the proposal invalid. OTOH, we can definitively say the current systems does not produce the desired results of balance within the arena. You can look at the numbers on any given night and see it is pretty much a failure. That makes the "system already in place" argument a wash.

Regards,

Hammer

[Baumer]

In my opinion the top 20% good pilots don't need any incentive to change side because they all ready do it looking for good fights. This wish is really only targeted at encouraging those with the least experience (or no perk points) to change sides.

It might be interesting to have this kick as a function of total players in the arena vs the current ENY value. So that in a very low population arena it would kick in at a lower ENY (maybe the 5-10 ENY range) and a larger population would not trigger it until a higher ENY is reached (maybe when ENY > 15).


Chalenge,
How abusive is it to have a balanced arena? I can't imagine worrying about someone switching sides, especially if as you say, they couldn't get 25 perks in a week.

[Chalenge]

For precisely the reason hammer presented or in other words:

There are a lot of abuses in the game...

which is to say there are ENOUGH abuses already in the game. Perks are supposed to be reward for being succesful not given away willy-nilly to noobs and dweebs alike.

[moot]

There's an ENY of 25 in one of the LW arenas right now.

[hammer]

For precisely the reason hammer presented or in other words:

which is to say there are ENOUGH abuses already in the game. Perks are supposed to be reward for being succesful not given away willy-nilly to noobs and dweebs alike.

You have skipped the basic question, which was

...
How abusive is it to have a balanced arena?

My saying there are already a lot of abuses in the game in no way makes changing sides to balance an arena abusive. I don't care how many perks someone has. I do care about extremely lopsided arenas. Anything that encourages balance is a good thing. An immediate reward for helping keep the arenas balanced is worth a try.

Regards,

Hammer

[Baumer]

Chalenge,
I disagree with the position that perks are supposed to be a reward for being successful.

I believe they were instituted to be a limiting factor so that everyone isn't running around in 262's, Tempests, and Tigers, with the intent to foster better game play. This wish is attempting to create better game play by increasing the incentive to move to the low numbered side that's all.
 

[AWwrgwy]

How is it abuse if they're switching to the side with the lowest number? Also, I figured some form of time limit would still be in effect.

Regards,

Hammer

The abuse would have nothing to do with side balance or "spiez!!1!".  the abuse would come by switching to the lower side at every opportunity for the free perks and only for the perks.

I mean come on.  People have been know to vultch a shade or two to fly a 262 with impunity.


wrongway

[morfiend]

I'd add,to stop some abuse if a player has over a set accumilated amount of perks that they are awarded a lesser amount or no perks.Say a player had 1000 fighter perks then award say 1 perk for side balancing,100 to 1000 maybe 5 perks 0 to 100, 25 perks.Then limit it to once a day.

The above perk awards are only examples and would pretty much eliminate any abuse or atleast reduce the amount of abuse a player could do.

 This may not work perfectly but it would affect arena balancing form the moment of application!

    

[hammer]

The abuse would have nothing to do with side balance or "spiez!!1!".  the abuse would come by switching to the lower side at every opportunity for the free perks and only for the perks.

I mean come on.  People have been know to vultch a shade or two to fly a 262 with impunity.


wrongway

Again, if it keeps the sides balanced, why is it abuse? If done properly, I would think they couldn't switch to get points, then switch right back. The biggest potential abuse, I would think, would be people switching and then logging so they wouldn't have to fly for the wrong chess piece. I think that is something that could also be solved with come coading.

Regards,

Hammer