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[Nefarious]

Hi Stoney
If a squad follows it's orders but doesn't hit the target until say T+70 is it still in violation?
At T+35-40 we realized our orders would put us 10-15 mins behind so we changed up to compensate.  Had we followed through blindly we would have been late. We often point out potential problems but sometimes this happens.  It would be a shame if a squad simply followed orders and was penalized. The CiC's don't always have the time to do a dry run on the worse case route.

<S> I'm glad you guys took the initiative and changed course to make the T+60 mark. Good Job <S>

[Stoney]

Hi Stoney
If a squad follows it's orders but doesn't hit the target until say T+70 is it still in violation?
At T+35-40 we realized our orders would put us 10-15 mins behind so we changed up to compensate.  Had we followed through blindly we would have been late. We often point out potential problems but sometimes this happens.  It would be a shame if a squad simply followed orders and was penalized. The CiC's don't always have the time to do a dry run on the worse case route.

Yes, even though it wouldn't be the squad's fault per se.  You did the right thing.  I noticed the deviation while we were enroute and figured that was the reason for it. 

[apcampbell]

Thought I called that over the radio, you guys must have been just out of range. Sorry if the message got dropped

[Hajo]

PFactordave the post I made did not refer to you.

Being a veteran of many Scenarios and FSO nights, it seems a minority of players and usually the

most vociferous have complaints or are trying to win the event in any way they can.  They want an edge.

It is the winning at all costs attitude that can ruin an event for the majority.  How they win does not matter

they just want bragging rights.  It almost occurred in our last Scenario.  And it would have but for some level

heads involved in the Scenario.  FSO so far I've not seen that.  The CiCs have done a great job.

History...that is a fun factor to me.  Yes...frequently at most LW planes got two passes on a bomber stream.

History...the Allies lost some escorts and bombers and still pressed on to their targets knowing full well

some aircraft were damaged and their fuel was running low.  Escorts also knew since they were over enemy airspace

that if they had to bail or ditch there was no returning to battle.  the LW fighters however could refuel, rearm, even replane

and again tear into the Allied formations with fewer escorts, some damaged and low fuel, and fewer number of defensive fire

from the enemy Bombers.  That was one advantage the LW did have historically.  They fought over home ground.  That also

unfortunately showed they were losing the War.  The alt at which the Allied bombers flew and the speed in FSO is accurate.

The way the LW fighters perform in this FSO is accurate also.  the P47, P51, were designed as high alt fighters to escort

effectively.  And yes...the bombers had to fly straight and defend themselves.

I had a blast escorting.  I knew the Jug was going to be tight on fuel.  Returning home might not occur.  The fights were great from

28K to the ground.

I had fun....with the History and the white knuckled combat that ensued.

It's called a Twofer!

[snakeplissken]

The Unforgiven was the second set of B 24's with P38 escort that fell into Kermit's zone of operation.  ImaDot was also in a squad on escort.  We hit the target and swung for home.  I actually swung back for a second run on the target.  Our escorts did a great job for the bombers.  They were well disciplined and forced the enemy below our altitude.  On "tail end charlie" on the way back I had 2 Unforgiven P-38's and Imadot help me back to base.  The 8th AF bombing missions are always a challenge.    to the CM staff that dreams up the fights.  An even bigger SALUTE to the brave men that actually flew these missions on both sides in WWII.  Attacking a fully armed B24 formation is not a light undertaking.