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Offline FTJR

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 05:43:03 AM »

Eventually I think having proper 24 hour times in MA with a very active and lively night time operations planeset (insturments that are illumitated, onboard radar and such) would be fantastic. . .but for the time being the lack in russian/japanese planesets is lacking too much for this sort of thing.

but thats my opinion.

-1 for this,  if we had night, again, then all of us in the non US timezone would be stuck with some nightfighting, already we dont have that great amount of numbers.. no thanks
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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 06:55:22 AM »
     Bah Mossies and Wellingtons!  More pretty boys, we need some
classic British bulldog ugly!  :lol

     I vote for the Hampden...early war and double bagger ugly  :aok

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Well if we are going for ugly this has my vote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE1aTpGez3M

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 07:29:58 AM »
The Halifax could be used as a glider tug - if they introduced the Horsa or Hamilcar :)





Would be a fun perk way to take a base, could even load up the glider with jeeps, but i don't think this will ever be added.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Aircraft_Hamilcar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspeed_Horsa

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 09:44:17 AM »
I guess there would then be begging for the Me Giant....
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2009, 01:47:03 AM »

For truly efficient, fun and realistic night fighting we'd need completely revised ground radar and completely new airborne radar systems to be added to the game. I'd give 0% chance for those to be ever implemented :)


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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2009, 04:37:26 AM »
Imagine the ground dar being as it is, or perhaps only bar-dar in the darkness. The airborne is simple and would not be much of a problem to program. Would be fun IMHO.
Gets a bit tricky with the bomb aiming though would call for incendiaries ;=)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2009, 11:43:59 AM »
Imagine the ground dar being as it is, or perhaps only bar-dar in the darkness. The airborne is simple and would not be much of a problem to program. Would be fun IMHO.
Gets a bit tricky with the bomb aiming though would call for incendiaries ;=)

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2009, 03:37:16 PM »
Not no, BOTH ;)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2009, 11:41:24 PM »
     Bah Mossies and Wellingtons!  More pretty boys, we need some
classic British bulldog ugly!  :lol

     I vote for the Hampden...early war and double bagger ugly  :aok

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The Westland Whirlwind was the Hampden's crazy second cousin.  But damn, what a hard hit she had (4 20mm all on centerline).  Below 6K, could out turn a 109.  Withdrawn for service for no real reason with a very good combat record

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Philip J.R. Moyes notes in Aircraft in Profile 191: The Westland Whirlwind:

    The basic feature of the Whirlwind was its concentration of firepower: its four closely-grouped heavy cannon in the nose had a rate of fire of 600 lb./minute – which, until the introduction of the Beaufighter, placed it ahead of any fighter in the world. Hand in hand with this dense firepower went a first-rate speed and climb performance, excellent manoeuvrability and a fighting view hitherto unsurpassed. The Whirlwind was, in its day, faster than the Spitfire down low and, with lighter lateral control, was considered to be one of the nicest "twins" ever built… From the flying viewpoint, the Whirlwind was considered magnificent.

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2009, 03:34:56 AM »
I seem to recall that there were two reasons for the withdrawal, one was the engines being unreliable and the second that the structure would not allow them to be replaced with Merlins. And in 1941 that bird was no match for the 109 any more.
Combat record? Would be nice to see some stats, but as far as I remember they got spanked during the channel dash.
And for AH? Would be nice. although the ammoload is not that great, you'd have something rather nimble with quad hizookas in the nose. That would not be a Hangar queen.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2009, 09:04:25 AM »
If we get another Brit plane I hope it can be launched off a CV.

Still, a lot needs to be adressed before we get another heavy Brit bomber.
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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2009, 03:32:34 AM »
That would be the Firefly, but easier still would be a Sea Hurricane or a different Seafire
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2009, 06:33:09 PM »
but easier still would be a Sea Hurricane or a different Seafire

agreed............  Sea Hurricane was issued in both MKIIb & c variants.They simply require hooks & skins.
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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2009, 05:14:50 AM »
Actually normal Hurricanes were once landed on a cv. A squadron or so, untrained in that. No mishap, but later the carrier was sunk  :(
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: A Hand For The Halifax
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2009, 09:59:08 PM »
The Westland Whirlwind was the Hampden's crazy second cousin.  But damn, what a hard hit she had (4 20mm all on centerline).  Below 6K, could out turn a 109.  Withdrawn for service for no real reason with a very good combat record

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The reason for the withdrawl from service of the Whirlwind was other cannon-armed fighters, like the Hawker Typhoon and the Bristol Beaufighter were becoming available and the Whirlwind was tightly designed around the Rolls Royce Peregrine engine which was being built in considerably lower numbers than the Napier Sabre,the Merlin and the Bristol Hercules.Changing the Whirlwinds Powerplant was not a feasible Option.Only 116 Whirlwinds and a corresponding number of Peregrines (302)were built.
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