Harassed my wife and I(and our kids) at grocery store....

[CAP1]

I'm sorry but whenever someone gives the " your response should have been - or- what you should have done" always bugs me.
 I find his response to have been appropriate given the situation. He didnt over-react, didn't get physical.
When some "person" makes a comment especially when my wife or kids are involved like the ones made to Anodizer I would want to know what he/she/it said and to clarify.
Why should these gay guys be allowed to make comments, insults, jokes whatever and everyone should just "walk away" ? To me your sending the wrong signal and basically saying that they can say whatever they want with no repercussions or consequences. In my experience when people are allowed to do this then they soon get it in their head that they can do "other" things without consequences which ussually get things escalated in a bad way.

I'm not saying anyone should escalate things but, when a guy gay or not makes a comment to or about my wife I'm going to put them in check, not necessarily in a physical sense but IMNSHO it is NOT OK to make insults or disparaging comments or jokes about my family   . People should not be allowed to get away with saying or doing this stuff and if people dont let them know it then they will continue and possibly do worse.
Whether a guy is gay or straight you do not make comments about another mans wife just because a guy is gay doesnt absolve him of still showing respect.

sorry for the rant but I can not and will not fall into the PC/barney version of do nothing and let some A-hole say or do whatever they want because we shouldn't be confrontational and they have the right to say or do things while I should just "walk away".

I'll stop now cause this really does irritate the hell outta me.

and Cap1 im not in any way directing this at you. It just seems here lately I have been hearing more and more that people should walk away when some punk makes comments or insults to a stranger and we sould all just be understanding and walk away.

understood.......i didn't offer that advice due to their orientation. i offered that advice, because no matter WHO it is making that kind of remark, what they're looking for/expecting is a reaction. any reaction. by turning around and confronting them, they were given that reaction, and probably happy because of it.

 now, had he continued along as if he hadn't heard it.....that would've taken their fun away, and very probably pissed them off more than he already was to have heard it.
 that is all i was trying to say............

[WilldCrd]

understood.......i didn't offer that advice due to their orientation. i offered that advice, because no matter WHO it is making that kind of remark, what they're looking for/expecting is a reaction. any reaction. by turning around and confronting them, they were given that reaction, and probably happy because of it.

 now, had he continued along as if he hadn't heard it.....that would've taken their fun away, and very probably pissed them off more than he already was to have heard it.
 that is all i was trying to say............

I hear ya. I just didnt want you to think I was coming down on you or anything

[trax1]

I have no problem with gay's, in fact my brother is gay and I have absolutely no problem with it, if it makes him happy I'm happy, but what you described there Anodizer was just wrong, it's like reverse homophobia, I guess it would be heterophobia, like you said, if it wasn't for all us breeders the human race would come to an end, so if that guy was serious about what he said, he can't be all that bright.

[DREDIOCK]

You should have responded to the "breeders" comment with
"Yep. Most NORMAL people are. And we are, cause you cant." then smiled and walked away

I have no problems with gays so long as they arent in my face with their showing of affection. Or dont make a play on me.
Way I've been raised is that its normally not right to ridicule someones birth defect.
In your case I'd make an exception.

I have a next door neighbor who is gay. There were two but they split up. Now there is only one.
Nice enough guy. doesnt bother anyone. In fact I rarely see him or saw them even though our back yards butt up against one another.
The only downside is one time when I was doing work for his mother and his sister started telling me why they split up.
Seemed he wanted kids and the other one didnt. And she went on for 20 min ridiculing the other guy for not wanting kids.
I politely listened but was thinking to myself.
"Not only is this none of my business. I'm not interested and I really dont need to know this."

Seems some gays want to be "breeders" too

[Grayeagle]

It's not about sexual alignment.

It's about respect for those around you.
Especially a family unit.

The two jerks were demanding adult supervision and possibly a career decision by insulting a family.

Generalities don't apply.
Act a jerk to my family, the response may be more than you bargain for.

-GE aka Frank (verbal insult is Assault, at the very least you can call the cops right there and arrange adult supervision)

[Shuffler]

Who is sleeping with who aint my business.

It's not till they are promoting it in public and carrying signs and such. If they want to be that way then be that way. I don't want to hear about it. If I have to see or hear about it then they are trying to make it my business.

[SEraider]

It's not till they are promoting it in public and carrying signs and such. If they want to be that way then be that way. I don't want to hear about it. If I have to see or hear about it then they are trying to make it my business.

Based on Shuffler's conclusion (I agree with):

I would argue against gay marriage because this would legitimize a couple to show public affection as stright couples do.  I would not want to see that and especially my children.  This would open the door for adoption of children since they are "married."  The buck should stop here IMO.

Traditional definition of marriage should not be changed to accomodate a small minority.  Civil unions are properly called for what they are. 

[CAP1]

Based on Shuffler's conclusion (I agree with):

I would argue against gay marriage because this would legitimize a couple to show public affection as stright couples do.  I would not want to see that and especially my children.  This would open the door for adoption of children since they are "married."  The buck should stop here IMO.

Traditional definition of marriage should not be changed to accomodate a small minority.  Civil unions are properly called for what they are. 

in some areas, i believe they already can adopt.

i have no issues with them. i have no issues with anyone, until they do something to force me to.

[SEraider]

in some areas, i believe they already can adopt.

i have no issues with them. i have no issues with anyone, until they do something to force me to.

Yes, I heard that in some areas as well.  But it would be more widely acceptable because of marriage.

I just have a problem with that for the childs sake.

[CAP1]

Yes, I heard that in some areas as well.  But it would be more widely acceptable because of marriage.

I just have a problem with that for the childs sake.

well, yes and no.

most of them tend to be as responsible as straight couples, if not more so.

 should they adopt a child at a very young age, then as that child grows, to him/her, their family will be "normal"

 for instance........we(my brother and i) never knew our dad. he bolted when i was 2. mom never dated after him as far as i know. to us, a single parent family was normal, and it was "different" to us when either of us would go to a friends house, and they had both parents there.


 like i said..........i treat everyone equally, to the best of my ability....at least until they start trying to force things on me...........

[SPKmes]

Don't know if it has been said as I stopped reading when it got to the normal bollocks of here, but that was a great response and you totally owned that situation. I can just see the mouth drop open and the hand held up against the cheek and chin with the astonished look of OMG I just got royally dissed by a breeder

[Delirium]

See Rule #6

I think that is the first time I have been hit with the mighty edit.

Someone, hold me... I tremble. 

[jdbecks]

I dont know why anyone would hate any kind of group.

Unfortuantly human beings have a great tendaceny to judge people that are different to them, or not like whats different.


If I ever win the lottery this is what I want to do,

Live on a small tropical island with a little boat to spend the days fishing during the day and lazying around, live in a little house on the beach with the nearest human about 10 miles away, not including my fiancee. or somewhere in the mountains minus the fishing boat

[Xasthur]

I think that is the first time I have been hit with the mighty edit.

Someone, hold me... I tremble. 

I lost my edit virginity this week too.

*holds Delirium in a completely manly and totally un-ghey, pro-breeder way*

[Angus]

I thought the answer to the remark was good. The remark was rude, the answer was good.
I know a couple of those pompous gays myself, and remarks like that always makes me want to do something baaaad