FSO: Operation Husky - Frame 1 Results

[ghostdancer]

Gentlemen,

Here are the results for frame 1. From what I have been told actually the non-attack on A25 seems to be do to a bomber squad on the Axis side not showing at all. We are contacting the no show squad and taking appropriate actions. This non show affected the Axis battle plan quite a bit since it cut their bomber force by at least 1/4. With that in mind the Axis Bombers actually did a very good job. After I do some more fact finding I will see if I assess a penalty for the Axis not deploying the minimum amoount of bombers. The CiC did plan for it but as said 1/4 of his bomber didn't show up on Friday night.


ALLIED SCORE
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1132 - Allied Bombing Results
1221 - Allied Defense of their bases / fleets
0530 - Allied Air Victories
-020 - Friendly Fire Incidents (shot down 1 friendly fighter and 1 bomber)

2863 = TOTAL SCORE


AXIS SCORE
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815 - Axis Bombing Results
896 - Axis Defense of their bases / fleets
830 - Axis Air Victories
-05 - Friendly Fire Incidents (shot down 1 friendly fighter)

2536 = TOTAL SCORE



Here are stats on turn out, force composition, and loss composition for both sides.

ALLIES
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205 - Fighters (81% of total force)
048 - Bombers (19% of total force)
253 - Total Planes flown

117 - Fighters lost (57.1% of fighter force)
020 - Bombers lost (41.7% of bomber force)
137 - Total Planes lost (54.2% of total force)



AXIS
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203 - Fighters (90.2% of total force)
022 - Bombers (9.8% of total force)
225 - Total Planes flown

69 - Fighters lost (30.07% of fighter force)
14 - Bombers lost (63.6% of bomber force)
83 - Total Planes lost (36.9% of total force)



Here are the bombing results for both sides. Basically the bombers performed well. The allied attack on V12 and V13 ran into Axis forces earlier on and from posted AAR seemed to have butchered. Resulting in only 1 or 2 planes actually making it to the targets and hitting them. Each side seemed to have problems hitting each other shipping although the Axis did better in their attacks. No ships were lost but the British CVs were banged up heavily and CV C110 took 9 bomb hits and CV C7 took 8 bomb hits; enough damage was done to both to give the axis 2/3rd points for 2/3rd damage (partial damage only is awarded for CVs).


ALLIED BOMBING
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286 (out of 288) - A2 (99.5% destroyed)
224 (out of 396) - A3 (56.7% destroyed)
255 (out of 288) - A4 (88.5% destroyed)
005 (out of 219) - V12 (2.1% destroyed)
002 (out of 219) - V13 (0.8% destroyed)
170 (out of 219) - V19 (77.8% destroyed)
189 (out of 219) - V20 (86.4% destroyed)
000 (out of 180) - 112 (minor damage to ships but only CV has partial damage results awarded so no points)

AXIS BOMBING
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000 (out of 572) - A25 (0% destroyed)
125 (out of 288) - A103 (43.6% destroyed)
257 (out of 288) - A114 (89.2% destroyed)
275 (out of 288) - A119 (95.4% destroyed)
079 (out of 219) - C10 (26.3% destroyed, enough bomb hits were done to reach the 2/3rd damage thresh hold on the CV .. 2/3rd points awarded)
079 (out of 219) - C7 (26.3% destroyed, enough bomb hits were done to reach the 2/3rd damage thresh hold on the CV .. 2/3rd points awarded)

[DmdJJ]

Why post this in an AAR "A25 was not attacked as the ALLIES put up a great defense and destroyed all 20 bombers assigned that target." and then say that a whole group didn't show. 

[ghostdancer]

Because the Axis CiC is relying on his information or view point when he created his AAR. Remember he has to rely on reports of others (and not all squads relay their status) and lacking that he has to rely on interpreting the map based on what he thought would happen.

He assigned an attack force against to A25. At the end of the night he assumed that they tried to hit it and the lack of results (no damage to A25) was do to the fact that they must have been intercepted and destroyed. I as the Admin CM took a look at the logs and noticed that only 22 bombers were deployed when the minimum I assigned to deploy to the Axis side was 40. Also from the logs it shows that every other objective was attacked and took damage.

The Axis CiC doesn't have access to the logs and the might have not read the AHevents logs before writing his AAR. So he assumed no damage mean the force assigned was destroyed. Much like the allied force assigned to hit V12 and V13.

When I looked into that as the admin CM I did verify that allied force to attack V12 and V13 was intercepted and butchered.

In the case of A25 a bomber force was assigned but the raw CM logs do not show any of that squad actually flying on friday night.

Simply put I have more resources and time to peel back the fog of war and determined what actually happened than the CiC of either side. Plus, it is my job to find out what happened and what did not.

So the Axis CiC wrote an AAR based on his information and understanding of the night. The other information is from me the admin CM who is looking into things and right now believes that the attack was do to a no show, not an interception.

[ghostdancer]

Also it might possibly be a case of where there was an intercept and no show. I am in the process of getting the actual Axis orders but right now have been told that the no show squad comprised half the bomber force sent against A25. So it is possible that instead of the base being attacked roughly by 20 bombers that instead only 10 managed to go against it and were intercepted and stopped.

[AKKaz]

Still unsure of what the defense points aspect and scoring is.

[ghostdancer]

In my designs basically each side starts with all the points of their bases (the allies had 2036 points and the Axis have 2028 points). The points for the portion of your base not destroyed goes to you, the defender. Obviously the points for the destroyed items goes to the attacker.

So when it comes to scoring each side can score points by:

1) Destroying enemy aircraft / vehicles
2) Destroying objects at bases / sinking ships or doing 1/3, 2/3rd damage to a CV (other ships only give points when sunk)
3) Get the points for the non destroyed objects at bases.

This is my system for scoring and other CMs can and do handle things slightly differently to radically differently. I could go into my logic but the short and simple is that since I have been designing and running events (I think 7 years now) I believe it offers a good mix of encouraging defense and also encouraging bombing.

[AKKaz]

NP, thanx for the answer....

Guess my question was for more of a overall, but that is in another one of my posts

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[BnZs]

ALLIES
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205 - Fighters (81% of total force)
048 - Bombers (19% of total force)
253 - Total Planes flown

117 - Fighters lost (57.1% of fighter force)
020 - Bombers lost (41.7% of bomber force)
137 - Total Planes lost (54.2% of total force)

Yes, I noticed skimming the logs that the B-26s did quite well sans formations. I was escort, and it felt GOOD for that job to actually have some meaning. I felt like this time we fighters were protecting the bombers from the German fighters, instead of the other way around.

[ghostdancer]

Yes, formations were off in frame 1 and frame 2. Each bomber is an individual pilot.