Keep the Advantage

[xthecatx]

Good effort 

[uptown]

Great post Mechanic, my question is when confronted with a 3 on one , I tend to go after the toughest or fastest fighters first.Is that a factor with you when you're setting up a fight? Also, do you try to keep the close to one another or spread them out more? Sorry i didn't watch the film..short on time here. 

[Eagler]

I like my 3 on 1's to be like a chinese kung fu flick where the other two wait their turns

if you live or die depends on the quality of pilots in the gang .. all it takes is one that knows just alittle more than nothing and you will die 9 out of 10 times.

[BnZs]

It's funny. If I post an amazing reversal or kill I get told I'm just showing off. Now this time i show a bog standard, run-of-the-mill fight that anyone could win if they follow the few pointers i mentioned...and I get suspected of self congratulation all the same.

Actually, this fight looks abit more difficult than many of your overshoot/reversal kills...these guys aren't barreling in with a massive speed differential that all but guarantees they'll miss, and this time you aren't in the Mossie that all but guarantees you'll fillet them anywhere out to 800 yards once they get in front.

Guys, at some level of training the primary difference between a good journeyman stick who gets a %@$#@ <S> after giving a gang like this a run for their money and a really talented stick who kills 'em all and lets God sort 'em is the gunnery. ACM is primarily learned, shooting has more of a natural talent element involved.

[Lazerr]

Being able to drop enemy planes quickly in an unfair situation IS the biggest factor when trying to survive.  You can only twist and turn for so long..

I like letting my guns work for me too.

[SlapShot]

"Starting with the advantage of great guns and a few thousand feet is all you need to stand a fair chance."

Sorry ... I missed that ...

[mechanic]

my writing style is close to unreadable, who can blame you 

I also said all feedback is welcome
S!

[mechanic]

Great post Mechanic, my question is when confronted with a 3 on one , I tend to go after the toughest or fastest fighters first.Is that a factor with you when you're setting up a fight? Also, do you try to keep the close to one another or spread them out more? Sorry i didn't watch the film..short on time here. 

Evaluate threats! If the threat is that you may want to disengage soon and run for home then shoot the fastest first. If the threat is the aircraft that is most deadly in a turning fight and you intend to turn fight yourself, shoot it first, as in this case (the spitfire).
 First and foremost you should shoot the one closest to your gunsite so long as you are not neglecting the ones behind you for too long.

[mechanic]

 So I took on board the feedback about the big guns (though i pointed that out initialy as one of the advantages to work with in that film).

 Here are two short films flying the C202 in the MA. They certainly go to show that without the big guns you have to work a heck of alot harder not to get killed. Sometimes even your best efforts wont be enough.

 c202 vs A6m.ahf

 c202 vs moss/hurri .ahf


S! goes out to 1kilhown, mryellow and kazaa. Kazaa especially for not picking me off the mossy when he could have done. Bruv probably told him it was me in the 202 after he shot me down in one 10 minutes before whilst flying MY mosquito against me.

[Bruv119]

also goes to show that 303's  from 600-800,  do very little damage even after taking a massive amount of pings.   

[mechanic]

ah bruv i didnt catch our fights on film. The first one when I was BnZ you untill the p51 popped in and you pulled a reversal on me was the best. This mossy film was the next sortie after you had landed your kills with about 300 holes in you.



NB: neither of the c202 films here show any good sense for starting with or keeping advantage in any form. They are just to give credibility to the people who say the big guns do it all. Well its true, they do. So use em if you want to fight 3 on 1.

[Lazerr]

That Starr fella in the a6m film really reminded me of my noobstick days...   


Thats actually how Mensa shoots, to this day.

[mechanic]

 
in a 190? I shoot worse

[mechanic]

here is some advice froma friend of mine that is very good. I thought I would repeat it here.

Your post got me to thinking, you probably know all this but here’s my input:


SA is King – all else is useless without.
ID the biggest threat by
o      Altitude / Energy
o      Plane type
o      Best pilot  >  not always biggest threat
o      Best pilot redefined  > the biggest treat.
Reevaluate biggest threat!
Repeat the above over and over and over and ov…..
•   
Get  enemy”s”  in a single view
o      When accomplished it’s “Almost” like a 1 on 1
o      Evaluate biggest threat!
Diving away from close eny>  to gain energy>  to merge with incoming eny can prolong life.
Evaluate biggest threat!
Change targets . . .:
o      …Whenever
o      …Current target dives
o      …Other eny gains alt advantage
o      …to maintain E
o      ...changing targets provide better change for Kill
o      …A new biggest threat is ID’d
Target a con, dive on decoy con then switch at last moment.
               Target con often maneuvers “less defensively?”
               Decoy con often burns E

Did I forget to say evaluate biggest threat?

[Raygun]

here is some advice froma friend of mine that is very good. I thought I would repeat it here.

That's the best advice i've read on here in a lone, long time.