What's Up With the Yak-9U?

[juzz]

Don't you people know the USAAF had all P-47D-30's equipped with top secret, NACA developed, "turn-o-matic" wings?  

[Ripsnort]

Could there  possibly be something wrong with the Jug turn rate rather than the Yak?  Maybe I'm used to the Pork-Jug in WB's (Which I admit I never flew extensively) but the AH jug turns really good.

[F4UDOA]

Gents,

Think somethings wrong? Next time you in a dogfight with either a P-47 or Fw-190A5 try this. With bogie on your 6 start a high speed 90degree dive. Basically do a split 6 to evade the bounce. Keep the maneuver as tight as possible to prevent the A/C behind you from getting a shot. If he follows he should either blackout or overshoot leaving you with a shot. Right? Wrong, both these A/C seem immune to the split S and seem to be able to overcome their high wing loading to perform some maneuvers a Spit 9 couldn't follow you through. So basically I don't think it is the Yak that is undermodelled but the P-47 seems to have the same turn-O-matic that the A-5 has. Strange that the two A/C with the Highest wingloading in the game (47lbs and 44lbs) seem to be the best maneuvering? If anyone is looking for data on this one your going to have to test for yourself. I'm tired of trying to prove the earth is round. For now.

Later
F4UDOA

[Fariz]

I have not fight with you from the time YAK was added to the game, Leonid. I am sure it will be a hard fight. Right now I find yak not a hard opponent for spits, may be this will change when yak riders will get more expirience with the bird.

Fariz
XII Legion.

[Vermillion]

Fishu, I agree that the Yak shouldn't be a TnB aircraft in the least, but it should be better than the P-51, P-47, A8, and probably the G10.

Right now its seems about the same, but thats why I ask others their opinon and if the turn tests have been done.


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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"

[leonid]

The plane I have the most trouble with in a Yak is the Fw 190A-5, because of its ability to quickly change direction via banking, ie split ess.  However, once the fight gets on the deck the Focke Wulf is more approachable, since the Yak does scissors quite well too.

I don't have trouble with the P-51D, P-47, Fw 190A-8, and for the most part, the Bf 109G-10.  A Yak can defeat the 109 in a rolling split ess contest, given similar E levels.  None of these planes can shake a Yak off its tail, given similar pilot levels.

Planes that cause me to concentrate are the Spitfire IX, P-38 and N1K2, because of their good E-retention coupled with very good turn rates.  While the Yak has superior E-characteristics to any of these three aircraft, it cannot conduct a sustained turnfight with them.  Thus, fights with the P-38, Spit, and Niki are usually strict vertical affairs.  However, a Yak will pull away from any of these three, given equal energy.

I have no trouble shooting down Zeros, since it's E-retention is so poor.  The Zeke may turn very well, but its turn rate is quite slow, allowing for good snapshot opportunities.

[Fishu]

 

Originally posted by Vermillion:
Fishu, I agree that the Yak shouldn't be a TnB aircraft in the least, but it should be better than the P-51, P-47, A8, and probably the G10.

Right now its seems about the same, but thats why I ask others their opinon and if the turn tests have been done.

I do like maneuverability of Yak over the G10...
But P47 outturning, that sounds quite far off  
(and Id say the mistake is in P47)

[leonid]

What I would do is find out the actual turn times for both the P-47D and Yak-9U.  Then, take the AH turn times, and see if the percentage difference of the two don't match.  If they do match, percentage-wise, then it's okay.  If not, it's a problem.