109G14

[TRiMmer]

<S> All,

I had a conversation with Supongo on-line the other night, and he said a G14 was basicly a G6 with MW50.  Does anyone have some reference data on G14?  Also, I know we have several 109s already; but, any thoughts on how it would perform in the MA?  How many were produced?  Thanks..

trm

[Fester']

our current 109g6 is painted in the colors of a 109g14

i think 109g14 be good intermediate plane between g10 and g6 for sure

[EDO43]

From what I remember about the G-14, it was next in line after the G-6 and prior to the G-10. I think the G-14 was an attempt by the RLM to standardize production among 109s.  I think the tall tail and the galland hood were standardized with the G-14.  There is one version of the G-14 that is more similiar to the G-10.  That version being the G-14AS.  The AS had a DB605AS engine which was similiar to the G-10's DB605D but with slightly less HP if  I remember correctly.  Anyway, it had the same outline as the G-10 with the assymetrical cowl  bulges but I can't remember if it had the lower cowl valve cover bulges.  I don't think it did.  It also didn't have the deeper oil cooler found on the G-10 and K-4 from what I can remember.  

When I get home, I'll check my sources and edit this as required.

[Wmaker]

Hi Trimmer,

If we think about the difference between G-6 and G-14 "AH-wise" there are G-14's that are basically same as certain G-6s and vice versa. As said G-14 was an attempt to standardize the production but it failed miserably. There were just as much variation in G-14's production batches as there were in G-6's. When we think about AH it really wouldn't matter which one (a new G-6 or G-14) we would get as long as it would have the same performance affecting features. If we go to walk around real planes then we find minor differences which don't have any affect in AH.

 

Originally posted by Fester':
our current 109g6 is painted in the colors of a 109g14

Nope, those markings match Hartmann's G-6.

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[GRUNHERZ]

Wmaker nobody is exactly sure if that particular Hartmann plane is a G6 or G14. Ive seen it depicted as both.

Anyway we really need a G6 or G14 with MW50.

[Wmaker]

GRUNHERZ, I have my trust on John Weal in this matter...

In his book (Osprey aircraft of the aces 37-Bf 109 Aces of the Russian Front, ISBN:1841760846) there is a profile drawing of the "white one" with werkenummer.

 

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[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: Wmaker ]

[GRUNHERZ]

Here is the plane depicted as a G14.


I have that book, where does it give the werknummer, I cant find it?

[Wmaker]

DOH! Well obviously my memory has failed me again!   I had the book in front of me about 1,5 months ago and I remember it having those numbers included in the text below each profile drawing (Or in the additional info section in the back?). Anyways I find it odd (though very possible) that the pic you posted doesn't show the bumb indicating MW-50. There were G-14s without MW-50 but they must have been the minority of the production run. I'm currently about 100 miles away from my books so could you look up the werkenummer blocks for G-14 without MW-50 if you have them?

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[ 08-24-2001: Message edited by: Wmaker ]