Dutch early war fighters?

[humble]

I'm getting ready for a business trip with some loooong flights so I picked up 3-4 paperbacks...one the history of JG-26. browsing it a bit I read that Dutch had some excellent early war designs including 1 "twin boom" fighter...D-100 i believe...were highly regarded by germans apparently...any info?

[SpyHawk]

I'd give my left nut for that plane  

I beleive you are talking about the Foker G.I, the Mercury engined version had a top speed of only 295mph at 13k. But was very nimble. Like a P38 kind of. Here's the kicker. It had 8 7,9mm machinegines in the nose. Hey, even if they are pop guns, 8 of anything in the nose is sweet. Plus it had another 7,9mm tail gun.

Fokker also made a more traditional fighter, the D.XXI, wich did ok against the Germans. Not as good as a 109E though.

[SpyHawk]

But of course, we will probably need to wait for WWII Online to fly them    

[LLv34_Camouflage]

Fokker D.XXII in Finnish Air Force colours, please!  

The following is from: http://www.jyu.fi/~mg/history/fafwwii.shtml


 


"Fokker D.XXI

The Fokker D.XXI was selected as the principal fighter during the modernisation process of the Finnish Air Force in the 1930s. Being a monoplane with a metallic fuselage and closed cockpit the plane was very well up-to-date at the time. Perhaps the most prominent feature of the plane was the large non-retractable landing gear. The Finnish Air Force initially acquired 7 aircraft from Holland and a license for the production of additional planes. The production of Fokkers started in Finland immediately and as the Winter War broke there were 36 aircraft available for the Finnish squadrons. The Fokker managed to hold its own against the contemporary Soviet fighters: the I-15, I-16 and I-153. The most successful Finnish fighter ace who flew the Fokker was Capt. Jorma Sarvanto with 13 victories. During the Winter War the production of the Fokker continued and another 35 rolled out of the assembly lines. As the war broke again 1941 the Fokker was clearly old-fashioned, but the production of the aircraft still went on. The Fokker was used for supporting assaults and intelligence between 1941 - 1944, after which it was withdrawn from front-line duties."

Camo

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Brewster into AH!

"The really good pilots use their superior judgement to keep them out of situations
where they might be required to demonstrate their superior skill."

[humble]

I reread the passage and the plane is the G-100...sounds like the one you described spyhawk...all I know is what was in the passage...very highly thought of by german pilots in 1940...

[Kieren]

One needs to remember that the Finns were excited to fly the Brewster Buffalos after having flown the Fokker XXI- that says enough for me!  

[spora]

 

Originally posted by Kieren:
One needs to remember that the Finns were excited to fly the Brewster Buffalos after having flown the Fokker XXI- that says enough for me!  

Yah - Brewster had 12,7 mm guns instead of 7,7 mm toy guns - and retractable gear - wow!  

But still, Brewster was still able to top any Soviet piloted fighter until 1943 and even got some kills during summer 1944 (and against Germans, too).  Fokkers were still in active duty in 1944, though they were mainly used for recon flights.

[BUG_EAF322]

The fokker G.1 is one off the first multirole fighters ever build by fokker .
we all know from the wo1.
it's engines where not powerfull but there where not better available at that moment.
it was early 40's .This plane could have been evolutionized into a great fighterbomber through the war unfortunally the germans occupied holland and destroyed all g1's.
What where they afraid for.
The germans lost over 300 planes in a few days. One last thing to say is that the americans stole the twin tail concept and used it into their p 38
I think the fokker g1 is interesting.

[humble]

All in all I think this would be an interesting "sub-thread" for AH...We've all been suprised by the quality of Italian mid war iron. I bet the various French,Dutch etc early war planes would provide similiar suprises.

[BUG_EAF322]

As far as i can think the G1 is the last figher ever made by fokker. It truly was a modern design. luckil for the germans they could destroy most off them on the ground.
Because it could give the messerschmidt a bad day.

None off the g1 excists and there are no replica's unfortunally. It would be awesome if there where some virtual replica's

and why not i mean what is the limit off available planes?

[LLv34_Camouflage]

 

Originally posted by spora:
But still, Brewster was still able to top any Soviet piloted fighter until 1943 and even got some kills during summer 1944 (and against Germans, too).

To add to Sporas post, does anyone know any other plane that has achieved a kill-to-loss ratio of 32:1 during three years of combat, while being heavily outnumbered in every engagement?

 

Camo

[Sorrow[S=A]]

P-40 in china

The trick is not that it was outnumbered or that it was a better plane- it was a good plane, with decent armament in capable hands..  and most importantly..  at the right time. BTW 3 years?? hmm. I didn't think they fought in them except as pure accident after continuation war?