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Offline daddog

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Re: Kamikaze Attack at T+117
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2009, 08:58:56 PM »
Your about to lose.

Your attitude toward other community members in FSO is derogatory and insulting.  Many that have posted in this thread have shown time and time again they want what is best for this event. Agree or disagree at least they at least care and don’t insult others in the process as you have.

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Re: Kamikaze Attack at T+117
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2009, 11:26:47 PM »
Feel free to come to the con and discuss this with me in person, over a beer or in the parking lot....your call.

I realize thats an immature and childish comment. However like most folks I reach a point where the internet tough guy syndrome gets old. I've been here since the Beta and I can think of a dozen squads that bring the mail just about every time up. They act with a measure of professionalism and respect toward each other, the rest of us, the event command team and the spirit of what FSO tries to represent. We all have our moments, hopefully mostly good and occasionally less the stellar. From your comments here I think you rank right up there with Larry in attitude...
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Re: Kamikaze Attack at T+117
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2009, 12:57:01 PM »
This is my log for the night:

Cee64E
22:00:54 Departed from Field #16 in a B5N2
22:35:51 Was shot down by dewbydo (crashed).
(half an hour crawling through the sky in that wannabe cessna an I get bounced. Frak!)
22:37:53 Departed from Field #16 in a Gunner-Observer
22:53:25 Was shot down by unknown enemy.
(Double Frak!  Bounced again!  Time to get some for me)  :furious
23:01:43 Departed from Field #16 in a A6M5b
23:06:41 Helps Cobra9 shoot down Solar.
(TAKE THAT!)
23:25:51 Takes on fuel/ammo/ord at field #17.
(Where the heck ARE the...  Oh. There they are..  )
23:55:50 Destroyed a armored gun battery at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a soft gun battery at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a gun battery at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a soft gun battery at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
(Take THAT TOO!!!  BONZAI!!!!)  :devil
23:56:31 Was shot down by joedog (crashed).
(AGGHHH!  FRAKFRAKFRAK!!!)

I Love the action in FSO.  The planning, the hunting, the challenge.  I'm just an average stick but FSO is making me better and our squadron is becoming a more cohesive, more disciplined fighting unit.  No kamikaze attack was planned and if joedog hadn't got me I would have zoomed as far up and out as possible and hit the silk,if needed, but after the beating we took in that B5N before we even SAW our targets, I wanted to score some hits.
Getting the crap ride once in a while is just part of the exercise.  It teaches you how to lose well.  The second life was the bonus for me, I KNEW we could down a carrier with just zekes.  I helped down the one last week.

You guys talking about not being able to land before we hit, well, sorry about your luck but that's war.  Ask anyone who's been there.  Ask the Pilots from the Yorktown how it felt to watch their home go up in flames.  We knew we were the turkey's in this turkey-shoot, but we played anyway because we love the game, not just winning it.  We play by the rules, we follow orders and we do play to win.  We don't tolerate "gamey" pilots in this squad.  You fly right or you fly with someone else.  But we do have more than a few hot sticks, we learn what they know and we get better.  My goal is ALWAYS to land my kills and someday I'll be good enough to do that consistently, until then I will fly to the best of my ability and skill and make it as hard as I can for the "enemy" to do the same.  ("...make the other poor bast.. er um pilot die for His Country"  G.S. Patton)

<Salute> to all the pilots who fly in FSO and the great guys who take time out of their busy schedules to make FSO the great event that it is AND pay for the privilege to do so.
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Offline Bannor

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Re: Kamikaze Attack at T+117
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2009, 01:09:50 PM »
 :salute Cee64E   :salute

Good attitude.
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Offline Cobra9

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Re: Kamikaze Attack at T+117
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2009, 05:04:16 AM »
Quote from: Cee64E on July 20, 2009, 12:57:01 PM
This is my log for the night:

Cee64E
22:00:54 Departed from Field #16 in a B5N2
22:35:51 Was shot down by dewbydo (crashed).
(half an hour crawling through the sky in that wannabe cessna an I get bounced. Frak!)
22:37:53 Departed from Field #16 in a Gunner-Observer
22:53:25 Was shot down by unknown enemy.
(Double Frak!  Bounced again!  Time to get some for me)  :furious
23:01:43 Departed from Field #16 in a A6M5b
23:06:41 Helps Cobra9 shoot down Solar.
(TAKE THAT!)
23:25:51 Takes on fuel/ammo/ord at field #17.
(Where the heck ARE the...  Oh. There they are..  )
23:55:50 Destroyed a armored gun battery at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a soft gun battery at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a gun battery at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a soft gun battery at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
23:55:50 Destroyed a field gun at base #25
(Take THAT TOO!!!  BONZAI!!!!)  :devil
23:56:31 Was shot down by joedog (crashed).
(AGGHHH!  FRAKFRAKFRAK!!!)

I Love the action in FSO.  The planning, the hunting, the challenge.  I'm just an average stick but FSO is making me better and our squadron is becoming a more cohesive, more disciplined fighting unit.  No kamikaze attack was planned and if joedog hadn't got me I would have zoomed as far up and out as possible and hit the silk,if needed, but after the beating we took in that B5N before we even SAW our targets, I wanted to score some hits.
Getting the crap ride once in a while is just part of the exercise.  It teaches you how to lose well.  The second life was the bonus for me, I KNEW we could down a carrier with just zekes.  I helped down the one last week.

You guys talking about not being able to land before we hit, well, sorry about your luck but that's war.  Ask anyone who's been there.  Ask the Pilots from the Yorktown how it felt to watch their home go up in flames.  We knew we were the turkey's in this turkey-shoot, but we played anyway because we love the game, not just winning it.  We play by the rules, we follow orders and we do play to win.  We don't tolerate "gamey" pilots in this squad.  You fly right or you fly with someone else.  But we do have more than a few hot sticks, we learn what they know and we get better.  My goal is ALWAYS to land my kills and someday I'll be good enough to do that consistently, until then I will fly to the best of my ability and skill and make it as hard as I can for the "enemy" to do the same.  ("...make the other poor bast.. er um pilot die for His Country"  G.S. Patton)

<Salute> to all the pilots who fly in FSO and the great guys who take time out of their busy schedules to make FSO the great event that it is AND pay for the privilege to do so.

Humm....thought BONZAI was a really small tree!  Didn't mean BANZAI???? lol, I already done told u that during the FSO bro... :lol
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Offline Saxman

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Re: Kamikaze Attack at T+117
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2009, 07:29:43 AM »
Quote from: Cobra9 on July 21, 2009, 05:04:16 AM
Humm....thought BONZAI was a really small tree!  Didn't mean BANZAI???? lol, I already done told u that during the FSO bro... :lol

Bonsai is the tree.
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Offline AKKaz

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Re: Kamikaze Attack at T+117
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2009, 10:40:54 PM »
Quote from: ImADot on July 19, 2009, 04:00:40 PM
Good discussion in this thread.  I used "Kamikaze" in the spirit of the one-way trip with no hope of returning home.  I saw most of you guys dive on the boat, pickle you bombs and disappear.  As mentioned earlier, you probably died to ack or to us flying cap...in any case, you hit the boat with bombs (cuz hitting with the plane would do nothing).   :salute

The big issue here is one of the cap...should we have all landed and towered out safely on time; leaving you guys a clear shot at hitting the boat?  Is it fair to us to lose planes to the closed logs because we encountered your last-minute strike while we were starting our landing procedures - when you would have lost yours in either case (logs closed while in flight or killed by ack)?

Not an easy answer either way.  Last thing we need is more rules, but consider the game of Golf:  Rules [and more importantly Decisions on the Rules] are made to handle specific real-life situations. 

Should there be an FSO rule regarding attacks after T+110?  "To allow all players the chance to safely land their planes, any attacks after T+110 will be disregarded for matters of kills, score and point totals."

This would be tough to police.  Even in the euro theater there are many times planes are patrolling right off the beach at the end of frame awaiting those having to land to make the time.  The situation gets worse depending on the aircraft involved. Have seen to many times 262's trying to get there last kills on buffs and other aircraft knowing that they can cross the distance to land in a fourth of the time it takes to get props on the ground.

Also have seen many occasions where 2 aircraft harass the only base for a few sectors an entire squadron trying to land before time ends.  2 aircraft versus 10-12 that dont make it is good odds.  Policing this would be a nightmare, many get hung up trying to make it home, some have to divert due to non-availbility of landing feilds.  Not to mention those that get held up with no hope of getting home in time, so they divert to attack on their way back to take out a few more objects.

Lastly, how would one really know if a person just compressed, lost controls or got hit by ack that made them seem like a death dive near the end rather than a last minute object destroyed even though they would not make it back.

Definitely a hard one to police.
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