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Offline Vudak

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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2009, 10:21:54 AM »

Ki-84's kill 38's w ease,,,,  F4U's harder but still very manageable unless they run   ;)   :D

The F4U-1A vs. Ki-84 is one of my favorite match ups in the game.  If you ever feel like going a few in the DA, by all means, PM me :)

Edit - that goes for any of you Ki-84 types...  Battle of the flaps, here we come ;)
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2009, 12:40:31 PM »
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2009, 12:44:17 PM »
Excluding the Me-163 and Me-262...

Best perked fighter: Tempest
Best unperked fighter: Spit XVI

'Nuff said.
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Offline PJ_Godzilla

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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2009, 01:09:10 PM »
I share your affinity for the Tempest.

OTOH, I don't understand this fixation for the hawg, even as I acknowledge how difficult it is to kill one. It seems like, whenever I approach one in a K-4 or 190D-9, that the F4U is always able to pull an unbelievably tight low-speed turn to evade me. It sounds like they do this by deploying flaps.

My question: how the hell do they know I'm coming? The six view in that thing is impossible. Every time I fly the turd I feel like I have zero rear vis.
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2009, 01:12:25 PM »
I share your affinity for the Tempest.

OTOH, I don't understand this fixation for the hawg, even as I acknowledge how difficult it is to kill one. It seems like, whenever I approach one in a K-4 or 190D-9, that the F4U is always able to pull an unbelievably tight low-speed turn to evade me. It sounds like they do this by deploying flaps.

My question: how the hell do they know I'm coming? The six view in that thing is impossible. Every time I fly the turd I feel like I have zero rear vis.

we use the force, adjust our view and have superior SA.

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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2009, 02:09:43 PM »
In a 1vs1 fight between a Tempest and an F4U-4, I'd take the F4U-4, fwiw, but most arena fights don't fit that category.  If you do find yourself out-maneuvered in the Tempest, it's the easiest thing in the world to disengage.

It sounds like you need to learn to adjust your views.
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2009, 02:11:46 PM »
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #52 on: July 23, 2009, 02:27:48 PM »
What is the best plane? What do you think is the best plane in the game and why?     :noid

F4U4.

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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2009, 02:40:12 PM »
I pretty much stick with 2 planes nowadays: if I'm goin to a fight where I can get alt I get an F4U1A. If I'm not gonna get over 4 or 5k then spit8. Both are great horde busters.
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #54 on: July 23, 2009, 02:52:50 PM »
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2009, 02:54:11 PM »
we use the force, adjust our view and have superior SA.


Well, I can only admit to very little stick time in the Hawg. I'll have to try again. I use a TrackIR and, last time I tried an F4U (in a Butcher Bird event), I was unable to find a view that showed me anything like six - it was more like low 5 to low 7 with that stupid armor canopy cutting out the high 5-7.

As I say, my empirical/anecdotal evidence DOES corrobrate your assertion.
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2009, 02:56:01 PM »

Size 11 is best
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2009, 02:58:30 PM »
I share your affinity for the Tempest.

. It seems like, whenever I approach one in a K-4 or 190D-9, that the F4U is always able to pull an unbelievably tight low-speed turn to evade me. It sounds like they do this by deploying flaps.

 

If they are pulling a tight, low speed turn to evade, they are surrendering to you and you should kill them every single  time this happens.
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2009, 03:20:50 PM »
If they are pulling a tight, low speed turn to evade, they are surrendering to you and you should kill them every single  time this happens.

Good. This looks like an opportunity to get a tactical clue.

I recognize, first, that when they are slow, yes, I have an advantage and can take a snapshot. Even if I miss, I can pull up, loop and reverse, and make another pass. I'm not sure if my problem with most of the F4U's I've run into is with the low-speed turn or with my inability to snapshot 'em to oblivion. Is my assessment here wrong? I should, given the initial advantage, be able to repeat as necessary, correct? It seems like the F4U runs pretty well though, and will only give me one or two attmepts t o get this right - or is there another tactic to employ when you're coming in high/fast on a low/slow turner? My first guess (after reversing and repeating) might be a high yo-yo (especially in the 190D) but it's a hard maneuver to judge for a relative noob.

For all those who might get defensive, no, this is not always how I've encountered F4U's. Indeed, one of my first kills in a 190d-9 was over a Spit all out of place at 20k whose wing I blew off. As I followed him down to really enjoy my kill and pump a few more rounds into him just for laughs, I was swooped by a high / fast F4u. This sort of "ruined the party" and resulted in a pw and damage, first pass, and death on the second.
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Re: Best plane.
« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2009, 03:31:45 PM »
Godzilla,

The Corsair's Achilles' Heel is (level) acceleration and (non-zoom) climb.  The F4U-4 lacks this weakness, and as such is often considered the "best" overall plane in the set.

A 190K4 is ideally suited to take advantage of these weaknesses, but if you aren't careful, your very strength might be used against you.  While a non-perked Corsair is not wonderful at acceleration, it is perhaps the best decelerator in the game. 

To completely oversimplify, if you're fighting a Corsair in your K4, you want to fight "UP" rather than "DOWN" or "LEVEL."
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