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Offline druski85

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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2009, 12:52:03 PM »
Great pics, thanks for those. 

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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2009, 01:47:06 PM »
 Kool pics! I wonder if that eruption has anything to do with our current cooling trend we just had? Like what brought on the little Ice age in 18Th century? Except in our case we just had a minor cooling trend since it is a much smaller eruption. 

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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2009, 04:15:19 PM »
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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2009, 06:37:01 PM »
Please feel obliged to describe what an "unnatural" gas is.  That is a strange comment from an intelligent person.

I think he was being facetious.
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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2009, 08:58:27 PM »
Please feel obliged to describe what an "unnatural" gas is.  That is a strange comment from an intelligent person.

Very nice pictures.

That's why it's in quotes, to highlight that sarcasm mode is engaged in response to certain environmental activists labeling CO2 as an environmental toxin.  That's funny, 'cause plants breath CO2.  But they labelled it a toxin in order to allow the EPA to regulate its production in the US.

Therefore, "Unnatural". 

And more on topic, those pics ARE amazing.  I remember how impressed I was with the pics from Mt St Helens, and I even had a relative who sent me a little baggie full of the volcano ash from her yard because it was neat.  But seeing an eruption in otherwise calm winds from orbit...  The energies involved there just absolutely dwarf human endeavour.  Awesome.
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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2009, 09:52:08 PM »
That's why it's in quotes, to highlight that sarcasm mode is engaged in response to certain environmental activists labeling CO2 as an environmental toxin.  That's funny, 'cause plants breath CO2.  But they labelled it a toxin in order to allow the EPA to regulate its production in the US.

Therefore, "Unnatural". 



Well, respectfully, plants don't breathe, first off.

Secondly, anything is toxic in high enough quantity, save for the inert gases.  As well, CO2 is demonstrably toxic to humans, this is why our cells release it and it is then respired. Whether that ideology is concurrent with your belief structure is not the point, at 1% you're drowsy and at 8% of total volume, you're unconscious and dead.  Is it something that should be regulated based on its' concurrent toxicity in humans......I would say no.  We'll lower the acidity of the ocean to 7.0 before CO2 becomes inherently toxic to human life, which will collapse everything else first. 


Oxygen, past 35% at 1.2 atm gains toxicity, and at 100% at one atm, within 48 hours you start a pulmonary failure cascade.  As partial pressure increases/decreases so does the relevant toxicity factor.  If the partial pressure falls under 1, (astronauts breathe 100% O2 at .6 atm for weeks) the problems go away.

Seriously, no offense meant in any way.  I was just surprised to see what you wrote.  You seem more with it than that, sarcasm or not.
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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2009, 05:02:10 AM »
You're right, almost everything *can be* toxic.  Heck, you remember that fake movement to ban dihydrogen monoxide, right?  CO2 simply isn't toxic to humans at anywhere near the levels we have seen or will see in our atmosphere.  What kills me is that it's required to trigger the breathing reflex in addition to being necessary for plants to live, but the CO2 control crowd talks about it as though you're pouring nitric acid into their lungs.

Saying plants don't "breathe" is sort of quibbling though, eh?  They absorb CO2 and release Oxygen, easier to say they "breathe" than to try to summarize photosynthesis in one sentence ;)

And that's the real point...  We have humans going on and on about human production and release of a gas that is required to sustain life on the planet, shouting and waving their arms about how toxic it is when they don't have any clue about the biochemistry behind their ravings.  Nobody on "the other side" is saying we should be free to dump anything in the atmosphere, but the lunatics are making as much noise as if every non-environmental nut is out in their yard pouring real toxins and releasing carcinogenic pollutants and particulates into the air and water.  And while we're all making this noise, the earth, through a volcano, releases more of these gasses and particulates in one eruption than the world's most polluting nation will release in several years.  It makes all the noise we're making about some of this stuff seem rather insignificant.
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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2009, 07:16:26 AM »
Even dihydrogen monoxide can kill you if you imbibe enough. I tried the dihydrogen monoxide scam on my normally gullible wife. She fixed me with one of her now trademark, 'Why did I marry you?'  looks. I should really have remembered that she's a scientist by profession. :o

But back to the pictures, that volcano shot is amazing, not to mention the others. Apparently that volcano is the reason for several spectacular sunsets of late because of all the dust if spews into athmosphere. I won't mention mention the CO2, oops I did ;)

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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2009, 04:59:44 PM »
Ahh the old splitting hairs post....  the anatomy of a losing poster...   :lol
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Re: Amazing pics from space
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2009, 06:23:38 PM »
I feel like "winning" a post is about as good as kissing your sister. 

Nice work.   :aok