karnak honestly im on your side here, just that i asked why all my books say it had 2 mg at the front,mentions 13mm mg and describes many different loadouts in posts last year. Basically, no matter what book i showed or quoted i was told by the usual mob of knowalls(

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So frustrated i gave up, thats the only reason i was being sarcastic, i was trying to save you the time of asking.
Ive also voted for ju188s and do 217s but eventually my personal choice settled on the he177 purely because i read an account of some raids in Russia it did.Also had a model of it when i was a nipper

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