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Offline oakranger

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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2009, 12:09:20 PM »
I like the statements that mondego is making. I am looking at several different foreclosures here in Alabama...the one we just made an offer on today that we made an offer on a week ago (feel through because of an investor and his credit crashed after the offer and he couldn't put up the earnest money...big surprise there) at $180k for a 5 bedroom, 4 bath house on .70 acres corner lot. Today I offered the same financial institution $160k and want them to pay the closing costs. I have about 15% of the asking price ($201k) and I don't want to fix it up and move out...I want to stay there for several years. Anyway we will see where this goes because the others I am looking at here at are similar listing price and similar size 4+ bedrooms and all are around 200-225k listed but either in foreclosure or about to be in foreclosure.

Should be a good time because I do see the bottom here in my area. We will see though.

if he can't put up the earnest money, he has no chose but to take a lower offer or he will be stuck with that house. 
If you do get that house, make sure that previous owner doesn’t do any new damage or steal any attachments to the house.  There is a huge event that people that end up foreclosing their home do a lot of damages to the house.  They put holes in the wall, break windows, tear up the wood work.  They even go as far as taking copper wire and pipes, windows, doors, light fixtures, sinks, toilets ect.  What they don’t know is that you can press charges on them for destruction of property, and thief (that is if the contract have been signed by both parites).  So before the contract has been signed by both parties, you and you agent (if you have one) go through the house one more time to make sure there is nothing new in the house that been done intently.
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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2009, 12:24:41 PM »
I do know there is a HUGE shadow inventory of foreclosed properties that the banks are just sitting on (so as not to flood the market).

I'd heard that. Whilst I kind of understand the logic and realize it doesn't do anyone any good for the housing market to be totally wiped out (taking the rest of the economy with it), it is kind of frustrating knowing there are a lot of empty properties out there being held back.

You make a great point about mortgage rates. I'll be keeping a close eye on that.

I'm thinking right now that if we find a great property in our price range, we'll go for it, but we're going to take our time looking and not feel rushed.
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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2009, 12:47:44 PM »
Well, I'd try to put up 30% if possible, and if it won't make you go broke. In the end though, it's up to you.
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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2009, 02:01:30 PM »
Well, I'd try to put up 30% if possible, and if it won't make you go broke. In the end though, it's up to you.
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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2009, 02:11:02 PM »
A Save money, if you don't have at least 10k for down payment, work on that first. Ideally you should be able to put up 1/4th to 1/5 of the asking price. That will significantly lower your monthly Mortgage.

B Shop around

C Don't pay what they are asking. If you think its overpriced in the current market, chances are everyone else does also. If you see a house that you really like the looks of, make an offer of 2/3's to 3/4s of what they are asking.  Then be flexible if they counteroffer.

D Don't buy so much house that if one of you has health problems, looses a job, etc that it costs you everything. Figure having to get buy one one salary, then for as long as you have 2 your in gravy.

E Figure 10% of the total is what its going to cost you in tools, changes, and fixing whats broke, or wants changing.  Landscaping, lawnmowing, paint, required tools, etc, it all adds up DARN fast once you buy that first house.

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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2009, 02:27:24 PM »
I think the real question you should look at is can you be happy paying the current market price, regardless of how much lower prices might go?  Will it comfortably fit your budget?  Home prices may go down, but I doubt they will go sutstantially lower.  At some point will probably go up beyond the current value.  For me, I'd buy.  Not only are houses lower in cost, but mortgage rates are great too.  Just stay away from ARM's.

Just my .02's.

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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2009, 03:22:45 PM »
...it all adds up DARN fast once you buy that first house.

LOL - I know that alright. I have owned property before - just never in the US.

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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2009, 05:31:48 PM »
PURCHASE NOW...are either of you titled on a house in the last 3 years? If not That person qualifies for the 1st time buyer program. Contact a Good Mortage Broker. There is a way to put that money in your pocket. Its $8,000

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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2009, 05:57:29 PM »
Funny you say that, I've been renting for 4 years @ $1,250/month, I'm just getting this house built 20 min West of SLC:

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20 min South of SLC, same house goes for $300,000.
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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2009, 07:29:29 PM »
I would buy before the holiday season ends.  I don't see prices going up or down too much more this year unless demand porks.  The stock market is making good news lately, and my experience living here in SoCal is that almost everything in relation to the "local" economy is influenced heavily by how much consumer spending is going on (shoping at the malls, day-time or late-night entertainment, eating out, etc.).  So IF at the end of the holidays comming up buisnesses have a good holdiay-season, and IF the people have the money to spend this holiday-season and they spend it, I think you'll see a bit of a bounce-back in property prices next year.

I work as a drafter for a Landscape Architect here in LA (we do commercial and once in a blue-moon a high-end residential project), so I'm in touch with a bit of what's going on through our clients and consultants.  The first half of this year was really ugly for everyone in the industry.  Contractors were just not working because nobody had money to build stuff so there was just no work or other jobs to move on to until the old ones found the funding, and us "designers" were just getting by because of some projects that were lingering on from last year.  Twords the middle of this year we're seeing contractors getting enough work to get them (those that are left) by, but it's small stuff (the shovel-ready projects our goverment has been behind), and they're itching because most don't have another project lined up to start after they're finished with this one.  Us designers though are really in the process of getting thinned out right now.  Those getting by until now on long on-going projects earlier this year are finding that there are no new projects to design to replace those that are disapearing and keep the payroll comming in.  Some of us designers have been fortunate enough to have landed some new projects, but only in the past couple of months (mostly public-sector stuff, my office has two recreation centers being constructed soon that we landed the landscape design for, and that should get us through this year).

The bottom line currently on the design and construction front here is that we're starting to see the banks being able to put loans out there again, and some previous projects (already delayed 1-2 years) are moving again because of this, but they are still too few and far between to sustain the industry at the current pace.  No new housing projects are starting up either (which if they started designing today you would see the first houses popping up in about two years), there's no demand and no banks to get the loans for the developers to build them.  If the economy gets worse in the next 6 months (and the banks don't start to put some loans out there) you'll see the crash in the construction industry keeping on, with the design industry finally catching up.  However things are looking up from the signs of things with the economy.  IF the economy rebounds soon very strongly and quickly though you will soon (in about a year or two after the rebound and demand for housing comes back) see a huge shortage in housing out here in SoCal because there will be this 2-4 year gap in the housing construction industry.
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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2009, 09:23:22 PM »


You make a great point about mortgage rates. I'll be keeping a close eye on that.

I'm thinking right now that if we find a great property in our price range, we'll go for it, but we're going to take our time looking and not feel rushed.

 Now thats being smart,keep an eye on rates,take your time, because I dont think you'll see a bidding war anytime soon,when you find the right place you'll know!


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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2009, 12:18:59 AM »
PURCHASE NOW...are either of you titled on a house in the last 3 years? If not That person qualifies for the 1st time buyer program. Contact a Good Mortage Broker. There is a way to put that money in your pocket. Its $8,000

Kam

Unfortunately there's an upper income limit on qualifying for that which we're just over. One of the downsides on living in SoCal is that although we earn what by any standard is a good income, the high cost of living here means we're probably not really any better off than people earning half what we do in some other parts of the country.

I often think the earning limits on these kinds of things should be regionally adjusted, but then I also understand why people in more reasonably priced parts of the country have no interest in subsidising us Californians.

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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2009, 01:50:39 AM »
So much talk.

Yes, look now buy now. Interest rates are going up quick partly because they know people are becoming interested in owning and to cover all the low interest conversion loans they were forced to make.... , avoid the arms.

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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2009, 02:02:15 AM »
68Wooley, your first name isn't Vladimir by chance, is it?

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Re: Buy a house now or wait a bit
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2009, 03:06:29 AM »
68Wooley, your first name isn't Vladimir by chance, is it?

Nope