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Offline RipChord929

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Norton saves the day
« on: September 15, 2009, 08:00:53 AM »
I know many of you guys don't care for Norton as an anti virus program, but it saved my bellybutton yesterday..

Was seeking info on WWII Tank gunsights, for a post on this BB... Went onto a website about the Zeiss Turmzielfernrohr 9b/c... It even had the green check, as being OK from Norton... But when I clicked on it, big red balloons popped up from Norton and Malwarebytes.. Both said that they blocked an attack on my computer... Norton found a fake scanner, and a browser hijack, Malwarebytes found an attempted access of primary harddrive data... The offending program tried 12 times in about 5 seconds, according to my security logs...

It was Russian website, written in cyrillic/english... Beware!!!

I didn't click on any of the mountain of popups that appeared instantly.. Killed my internet connection, and then the computer, restarted and scanned with my full battery of anti/virus's... Nothing found... Pheww!!!

Everything is working OK, got lucky!!!

Norton DOES work, it might not be perfect, but it saved me this time!!!

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Offline OOZ662

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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 09:30:48 AM »
And to think that all could have been prevented with FireFox and NoScript for free and without eating half your computer's performance envelope. :)

I haven't used an antivirus for years. I sit behind a router, use GMail (and therefor can preview attachments, though I rarely need to), and FireFox with NoScript and AdBlockPlus. I'm sure the Windows Firewall helps too, but it's rather quiet.
Did a scan with ESET's online scanner for giggles the other day and got nothing.
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Offline RipChord929

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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 10:22:41 AM »
I use a router as well, who doesn't?  Have 4 pc's running, kinda have to...  Mine is a Linksis 10/100/1000 hardline, works well.... Never had any trouble with it... Other than someone laying a magazine on top of it, making it overheat, started shutting down access, one line at a time, #4 first... But that doesn't have anything to do with this problem...

Funny thing is, AdAware and Spybot were running as well, but they didn't see anything happening.. Hmmm?
I guess thats why you should have multiple defensive belts, because some work better than others against different threats... So I'm told anyway... Sure didn't hurt this time...

This happened on my old workhorse PC, it websurfs, emails, gruntwork... It's too old to play games anymore..
And I don't need to surf porn sites, so I don't see nasty virus garbage very often... 

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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 10:30:39 AM »
Quote from: RipChord929 on September 15, 2009, 08:00:53 AM
...I didn't click on any of the mountain of popups that appeared instantly.. Killed my internet connection, and then the computer, restarted and scanned with my full battery of anti/virus's... Nothing found... Pheww!!!...
I think you saved yourself....

As another suggestion, disable the active monitoring of Spybot and AdAware. They interfere with each other and many more security applications. Keeping them running actually reduces your system security as files will slip past because the scanners are busy fighting for the right to analyze the files. Yep, it's happened to me.
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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 10:42:13 AM »
Use a safe browser and get rid of all the 10 scanners lol. No wonder people complain about slow computers if they deliberately destroy them.
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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 10:58:49 AM »
Quote from: MrRiplEy[H] on September 15, 2009, 10:42:13 AM
Use a safe browser and get rid of all the 10 scanners lol. No wonder people complain about slow computers if they deliberately destroy them.
Now Ripley to be fair it's not "destroying" the computer...just making it do unnecessary work to achieve a simple result, shorter life expectancy of the drive at best.

OOZ662's idea of Firefox with noscript and adblock plus works pretty well...but it doesn't stop back door trojans. The fact that he's using a web based email without a local client interface saves him from probably close to 95% of viral threats. I'd add keyscrambler to that setup to protect against backdoor keyloggers. Then stay off the .ru and .cn domains as they are the most infected domains around.


I have a system on my bench right now that has the latest version of McAffee on it, up to date virus definitions. Task manager lists 22 processes on the active list, 67 processes being reported as running...and all of the memory being used. Takes 10 minutes to enter Windows...5 minutes for the web browser to open...and the owner doesn't think it's infected. LOL
That system is going to get reloaded and I'm charging an extra $10 dipstick fee.
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Offline RipChord929

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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 11:09:20 AM »
I've never said anything about a slow computer, but you are probably right anyway, lol!!!
It would seem faster, simpler, and more orderly to have a smaller, (apps running) solution..

Everything is working fine so I don't mess with it, but your advice does make sense..

When this PC boots, it starts everything... Sometimes I turn stuff off, other times I just don't bother..
Spybot is the one I shut down, It seems to gobble up the most resources... But very thorough scanner...

RC
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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 01:30:13 PM »
A pretty neat solution would be to dualboot or run a linux in virtualbox, use that for browsing. You will have astronomically better security.
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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 02:23:03 PM »
I use a program called EasyCleaner. With it you can do a simple registry cleanout and control what starts at boot. It has some other utilities that I don't use, as well.
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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2009, 03:23:36 PM »
Quote from: MrRiplEy[H] on September 15, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
A pretty neat solution would be to dualboot or run a linux in virtualbox, use that for browsing. You will have astronomically better security.
There's an idea that would be more than successful.
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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 04:37:21 PM »
stupid question for you guys but wont malwarebytes and norton conflict with each other?  I mean I always thought that having more than one anti-virus was a bad idea

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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2009, 07:35:58 PM »
Quote from: guncrasher on September 15, 2009, 04:37:21 PM
stupid question for you guys but wont malwarebytes and norton conflict with each other?  I mean I always thought that having more than one anti-virus was a bad idea

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Malwarebytes is not an anti-virus program...it's an anti-malware (malicious software) program.

It will conflict with Norton for system resources (as in hogging memory) and the if you run the Norton security suite, there will be conflicts.
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Re: Norton saves the day
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2009, 11:33:38 PM »
I just renewed kaspersky, which I prefer. I have 2010 now and it has sandbox with it.Internet explorer and my wifes chat and email are in it so far. If I get a strange email,or at times i look at some of the shareware, I can deposit them into sandbox before executing. I used to use a program returnil which would run the PC virtually, trying sandbox now as it does the same thing.
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